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Re:Google Employees Demand the End of Forced Arbitration Acr... by manfredo on Monday December 10, 2018 @06:30PM (#18652080)
This is definitely not true. Some unionized aerospace companies literally draw a line on the floor that engineers can't cross. When an engineer needs to make a change to a spacecraft they need to describe how to perform the change to a technician, wait for the technician to do it, and repeat the process if the technician doesn't do it right. Policies like those would immediately go out the door if union rules didn't mandate that only the unionized technicians can work on spacecraft.
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Re:Google Employees Demand the End of Forced Arbitration Acr... by perfmode on Monday December 10, 2018 @06:38PM (#18652122)
This is a bug. Not a feature
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Re:Google Employees Demand the End of Forced Arbitration Acr... by manfredo on Monday December 10, 2018 @06:45PM (#18652160)
No, this is a feature, not a bug. Union rules often create redundant roles for the purposes of making the company hire more employees. More unnecessary work for the unionized technicians in this case, at the expense of making the company as a whole less efficient. Remember, the union is incentivized to do what's best for the union which is distinct from what is best for the company or its members.
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Re:Google Employees Demand the End of Forced Arbitration Acr... by perfmode on Monday December 10, 2018 @06:50PM (#18652180)
You’re stuck in the past. Instead of lamenting about the negative effects of past schemes with the idea that any future scheme will have the same problems, how about we design new solutions given all of the experience and information we now possess.

Are we not technologists and engineers?

A defeatist attitude just slows down the problem solving process.

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Re:Google Employees Demand the End of Forced Arbitration Acr... by manfredo on Monday December 10, 2018 @07:15PM (#18652304)
The current situation is working perfectly fine for plenty of tech workers. We have some of the best ratio of compensation to working experience in the country. There's a reason why so many people want to get into tech. Forced arbitration or not, I highly doubt the average Google Dev would want to trade life situations with the average American.

Are we not technologists and engineers? Don't we know enough about the pitfalls of trying to fix a system that isn't broken?

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Re:Google Employees Demand the End of Forced Arbitration Acr... by madhadron on Monday December 10, 2018 @09:09PM (#18652829)
> We have some of the best ratio of compensation to working experience in the country.

But is it among the best ratios of compensation to value provided to the company? That's the more interesting number.

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Re:Google Employees Demand the End of Forced Arbitration Acr... by perfmode on Monday December 10, 2018 @10:22PM (#18653134)
> Are we not technologists and engineers? Don't we know enough about the pitfalls of trying to fix a system that isn't broken?

The system isn't broken for _you_. You're not in a position to speak on behalf of me.

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