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Re:Google Employees Demand the End of Forced Arbitration Acr... by cobookman on Monday December 10, 2018 @05:54PM (#18651850)
This is a vocal minority pushing for this. The majority may not be for unionization.
Re:Google Employees Demand the End of Forced Arbitration Acr... by 49531 on Monday December 10, 2018 @06:18PM (#18651979)
You cannot actually ratify a union without a majority of workers. Unions are typically democratic organizations. Also folks don't usually like to stick their heads out if there isn't enough of a movement to avoid being fired for organizing.

Another big thing anti-union propaganda pushes is that it's a vocal minority making a lot of noise. Usually it's the opposite.

Re:Google Employees Demand the End of Forced Arbitration Acr... by masonic on Monday December 10, 2018 @11:30PM (#18653319)

  Unions are typically democratic organizations
Modern democracy relies on secret ballots.

Unions want "card check" votes that let the leadership see whom they need to intimidate.

Re:Google Employees Demand the End of Forced Arbitration Acr... by drdeca on Monday December 10, 2018 @07:39PM (#18652423)
I think I misunderstand exactly what a union is, because my understanding of what a union is, doesn't seem to imply being unable to create one without majority support.

Is a union not just a collection of employees who have entered into a contract together which requires that they do certain things as part of collective bargaining actions.

I don't see why that would inherently require a majority of the employees, or even a majority of the employees in a certain occupation.

Is the 50% requirement due to some enshrinement of unions in law?

Re:Google Employees Demand the End of Forced Arbitration Acr... by pseudalopex on Monday December 10, 2018 @08:27PM (#18652644)
Minority unions don't have the same legal status in the US. The contract would be unenforceable.
Re:Google Employees Demand the End of Forced Arbitration Acr... by drdeca on Tuesday December 11, 2018 @01:39AM (#18653599)
That seems counterintuitive to me. Why does there being other people employed by the same people prevent me and the group I'm in from entering into contract together?

Why are unions treated differently than other contracts?

I'm assuming this is because of some historical accident that came about with a struggle between people who wanted to prevent all such contracts and people who wanted unions to have special privileges over other sorts of contracts?

Re:Google Employees Demand the End of Forced Arbitration Acr... by pseudalopex on Wednesday December 12, 2018 @03:43PM (#18667581)
A majority union isn't a kind of contract. It represents all workers in a bargaining unit, even workers who voted against it. In theory, this simplifies negotiations and helps make sure all workers are fairly represented.

Some union supporters worry that allowing minority unions would weaken established unions. Union opponents have focused on passing "right to work" laws, which require majority unions to represent non-members for free. The status quo probably makes unions stronger in pro-union states and weaker in anti-union states.

Re:Google Employees Demand the End of Forced Arbitration Acr... by drdeca on Thursday December 13, 2018 @12:48AM (#18670151)
Thank you for explaining! Your explanation is quite helpful.
Re:Google Employees Demand the End of Forced Arbitration Acr... by toomuchtodo on Monday December 10, 2018 @05:56PM (#18651864)
You don’t need to be in the majority to effect change. You just need leverage.

Bernie Sanders used publicity and shame to force Amazon to pay fulfillment center workers a higher minimum wage, and he’s only one person (albeit a person with a platform).

So find the leverage. Everyone has pain points.

Re:Google Employees Demand the End of Forced Arbitration Acr... by robrenaud on Monday December 10, 2018 @06:06PM (#18651914)
And they now apparently are paying the high performing workers less.

https://techcrunch.com/2018/10/03/despite-minimum-wage-incre...

Re:Google Employees Demand the End of Forced Arbitration Acr... by perfmode on Monday December 10, 2018 @06:36PM (#18652111)
A move which is more likely retaliatory than it is about Amazon’s profitability and concerns about going under.
Re:Google Employees Demand the End of Forced Arbitration Acr... by toomuchtodo on Monday December 10, 2018 @06:13PM (#18651951)
Amazon didn’t have to reduce the pay of high performing workers. They chose to. That says more about Amazon than workers attempting to raise their wages.
Re:Google Employees Demand the End of Forced Arbitration Acr... by ddingus on Monday December 10, 2018 @06:24PM (#18652034)
Exactly. All that is on Amazon, not those fighting for a living wage.
Re:Google Employees Demand the End of Forced Arbitration Acr... by supercanuck on Monday December 10, 2018 @06:10PM (#18651926)
The majority may be waiting for the tipping point.