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Re:UK spies: You know how we said bulk device hacking would ... by TomMarius on Monday December 10, 2018 @03:35AM (#18646215)
Eh, how does that make it OK in any way?
Re:UK spies: You know how we said bulk device hacking would ... by setquk on Monday December 10, 2018 @03:40AM (#18646231)
It doesn’t make it ok but it makes it self defeating.

We can’t win the ok battle any more as no one up top gives a shit clearly.

Re:UK spies: You know how we said bulk device hacking would ... by TomMarius on Monday December 10, 2018 @03:49AM (#18646278)
I'm absolutely sure it's self defeating only temporarily and/or when it doesn't matter. Governments can use literally any amount of money and other resources if they care, and there are many people who wouldn't even require extraordinary sums (being in army is not exactly well paid).

We're going full speed into totality. It was absolutely the same when the communist regime started in my home country: People were saying they would not use their new powers against ordinary people and that seizing all farmland would be impractical and then after few years of silence KGB and gulags and executions happened (our local alternatives of course).

Re:UK spies: You know how we said bulk device hacking would ... by setquk on Monday December 10, 2018 @03:55AM (#18646308)
They can but they don’t pay people much and you have to be morally bankrupt to work there. Very few people fit that niche.

After paying £27k+ in tuition fees grad priority is earning so the government chased them off too.

Re:UK spies: You know how we said bulk device hacking would ... by TomMarius on Monday December 10, 2018 @03:56AM (#18646314)
Not at all. Most people see working for their country as a good thing. They can start paying people literally any sum of money literally any minute they want. And even if UK people wouldn't work for them, mercenaries are common.
Re:UK spies: You know how we said bulk device hacking would ... by setquk on Monday December 10, 2018 @04:00AM (#18646330)
Not here in the UK. Once you’ve taken a public sector position you are tainted.
Re:UK spies: You know how we said bulk device hacking would ... by heavenlyblue on Monday December 10, 2018 @10:23AM (#18648507)
I assume that doesn't include working for NHS?
Re:UK spies: You know how we said bulk device hacking would ... by setquk on Monday December 10, 2018 @11:23AM (#18648956)
In an IT capacity that does include the NHS.

I'm not for a moment suggesting this is right for ref. Individual merit is much more important.

Re:UK spies: You know how we said bulk device hacking would ... by northernmonkey on Monday December 10, 2018 @01:27PM (#18650008)
That is absolutely not the case
Re:UK spies: You know how we said bulk device hacking would ... by PavlovsCat on Monday December 10, 2018 @04:27AM (#18646454)
> We can’t win the ok battle any more as no one up top gives a shit clearly.

That's the reason to battle, not the reason you lost before you even did that.

Re:UK spies: You know how we said bulk device hacking would ... by setquk on Monday December 10, 2018 @06:24AM (#18647052)
There aren't enough people who care about it to win the battle so we make sure the victory is pointless.