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Re:Ask HN: Which abandoned proprietary software would you re... by sheepybloke on Saturday December 08, 2018 @11:12AM (#18635880)
Is no one going to mention Pebble? It's the only smartwatch I've ever wanted, and I was so sad that it got bought and died right when I had enough money to spend some on a smart watch. It just had the perfect combo of good design, long battery life, and usability.
Re:Ask HN: Which abandoned proprietary software would you re... by sentrysapper on Saturday December 08, 2018 @02:02PM (#18636861)
Pebble definitely deserves a mention. Lost mine this October on a high dive. Had it for three years never had an issue with it. I was feeling okay with it for awhile, but then I started missing meetings at work and time sensitive texts - was too used to having easy access to it my calendar and notifications.

Started looking for a comparable smartwatch: always on, good battery life, and Android notifications, there's just nothing there.

Ended up ordering a Pebble Time Steel from eBay. I feel like a part of my life and sanity was restored.

Re:Ask HN: Which abandoned proprietary software would you re... by mr-ron on Saturday December 08, 2018 @10:48PM (#18639144)
I found the same thing in an amazfit bip
Re:Ask HN: Which abandoned proprietary software would you re... by modeless on Saturday December 08, 2018 @11:32AM (#18635984)
Over two years after Pebble shut down I am still wearing my Pebble Time Round every day and it works just as well as the day I got it. There's really good community support with Rebble.

You can still find Pebbles for sale in various places and I'd recommend getting one over any of the Android Wear watches. They're just that much better.

Re:Ask HN: Which abandoned proprietary software would you re... by SyneRyder on Saturday December 08, 2018 @12:03PM (#18636156)
Same here with my Pebble Time Steel. It still gets 7 days battery life, works with the latest Android, and the weather & speech services all still work after subscribing to Rebble.

I keep looking at the Fitbit Versa, which is clearly Pebble's spiritual successor, but it doesn't have an always-on screen or the Time Steel's 7 - 10 day battery life. I just hope Fitbit keeps the Versa around by the time I need to replace my Pebble.

Re:Ask HN: Which abandoned proprietary software would you re... by Improvotter on Saturday December 08, 2018 @02:06PM (#18636895)
My Pebble Time Steel has been in my drawer for 2 years I think. I bought it on release and didn't really use it for that long because I honestly didn't found it useful. What do you use it for? Most of the time I just find it easier to take out my phone.
Re:Ask HN: Which abandoned proprietary software would you re... by modeless on Saturday December 08, 2018 @06:39PM (#18638183)
Bluetooth Smart Unlock makes taking out my phone easier, since I don't have to put in a code or fiddle with the fingerprint reader. I've really gotten used to it.

But the killer feature to me is notifications. I can keep my phone completely silent with no vibration and never miss an important call or text or calendar reminder. I never have to pat my pocket to see if my phone is vibrating. I can decline spam calls and decide whether to respond to messages without taking my phone out. I can even leave my phone in silent mode on the counter across the room and not miss calls or texts.

I also love the Google Maps integration (third party app). Being able to see my next turn on my wrist is very useful and the navigation screen is more informative and easier to read than the native Google Maps Android Wear integration. When I get in my car that doesn't have Android Auto, I can still say "OK Google, navigate to X" and without taking my phone out of my pocket I get voice directions through car Bluetooth audio and visual directions on my wrist.

It's also just a good watch. There are lots of faces to choose from, some with extra information like weather or stock prices or step count or whatever. It's far thinner than any other smartwatch and you don't have to flick your wrist just to turn on the screen and see the time.

Re:Ask HN: Which abandoned proprietary software would you re... by Cookiesaurusbex on Saturday December 08, 2018 @06:56PM (#18638240)
I use it for as few things as possible and it does them very well. I only want notifications for things that may be immediately relevant (phone call, text msg, calendar event reminders) so when I walk away from my phone I'm not worried about missing something important. It works with Smart Lock on Android so my phone stays unlocked when I'm close and locked when I'm not. Vibrating alarm clock that won't wake the whole house, sleep & exercise tracker without needing to carry my phone. I don't actually "use" it very often, but it is a very passive yet essential part of my routine and keeping myself on track. I am very forgetful and used to have entire weekends pass by where I forget to check my phone unless something reminds me to and the Pebble helps make sure I get only the essential information when I need it without unnecessary interruption. It also shows time and weather at a glance ;)
Re:Ask HN: Which abandoned proprietary software would you re... by mvkel on Saturday December 08, 2018 @01:37PM (#18636708)
I have one sitting in my drawer; happy to send to you for free if you're interested in owning one. Just drop me a line.
Re:Ask HN: Which abandoned proprietary software would you re... by haneefmubarak on Saturday December 08, 2018 @02:40PM (#18637080)
Hey dude I'd be really happy to snag that from you, but I think it'd only be fair if I paid for shipping.

I couldn't find an email address for you, mine is HANEEF at PDX dot EDU. I've never actually had a smart watch before, but hearing all these people talking about the pebble is making me really interested to try this one.

Re:Ask HN: Which abandoned proprietary software would you re... by jopro on Monday December 10, 2018 @02:41PM (#18650592)
I too have a Pebble that I'm happy to provide to anyone as well. OG Kickstarter edition. Free to a good home.
Re:Ask HN: Which abandoned proprietary software would you re... by elvispt on Tuesday December 11, 2018 @05:27AM (#18654341)
if the offer is still available, I'll take it. I'll pay shipping (I'm in europe, assume you are in the US).
Re:Ask HN: Which abandoned proprietary software would you re... by albertgoeswoof on Saturday December 08, 2018 @11:23AM (#18635932)
Try the Amazfit BIP, it’s similar (e ink screen), cheaper ($69) but does lack a bit on software / integrations side
Re:Ask HN: Which abandoned proprietary software would you re... by IshKebab on Saturday December 08, 2018 @01:21PM (#18636615)
Does not look comparable. Appears to be basically a heart rate and step counter. One of the great things about smart watches is notifications.
Re:Ask HN: Which abandoned proprietary software would you re... by AdamGibbins on Saturday December 08, 2018 @01:57PM (#18636832)
As far as I can find on the internet, it does support notifications, even says so on their official site. So not sure what your comment is referring to.
Re:Ask HN: Which abandoned proprietary software would you re... by IshKebab on Saturday December 08, 2018 @07:01PM (#18638265)
Ah yes. The pictures I found made it look like it didn't have a proper display but it actually does. Definitely not e-ink though.
Re:Ask HN: Which abandoned proprietary software would you re... by darkmighty on Saturday December 08, 2018 @08:51PM (#18638746)
I believe it's transflective LCD display
Re:Ask HN: Which abandoned proprietary software would you re... by albertgoeswoof on Sunday December 09, 2018 @01:21PM (#18642334)
It is e ink... the screen is always on, works in bright light and lasts 30 days+
Re:Ask HN: Which abandoned proprietary software would you re... by IshKebab on Monday December 10, 2018 @05:59AM (#18646934)
E-ink is a specific technology. Not just any daylight-visible low power display.
Re:Ask HN: Which abandoned proprietary software would you re... by albertgoeswoof on Saturday December 08, 2018 @02:16PM (#18636948)
It has notifications, shows texts, let’s you reject calls etc.
Re:Ask HN: Which abandoned proprietary software would you re... by gegtik on Saturday December 08, 2018 @11:21AM (#18635923)
although its no pebble, the amazfit bip is the closest contender available today
Re:Ask HN: Which abandoned proprietary software would you re... by danShumway on Saturday December 08, 2018 @12:29PM (#18636317)
What does data security/privacy look like?

I used to be big into those dorky digital watches when I was growing up, and I've been tempted by fitness trackers. My concerns are:

A) Is the Bluetooth connection secure? Are they taking steps to make it so the Bluetooth connection isn't easily trackable? How easy is it, for instance, for me to set rules to turn off the Bluetooth when the watch isn't actively syncing?

B) Does the watch send any data to someone else's remote servers, at all? Do I need to go through a 3rd party to get access to my own data (ie. what Fitbit does)?

I already have a Smartphone, I don't want my watch to act like one. I don't want to have to do a bunch of syncing through a 3rd-party server that will get shut down and sold off with all of my data someday. I'd pay a lot of money for a device that uses my Smartphone as an access-point/hub, but that largely just works offline and independently.

Re:Ask HN: Which abandoned proprietary software would you re... by ixwt on Saturday December 08, 2018 @11:34AM (#18635990)
Holy crap, I've been looking for something to replace my pebble... This product can't be real... 30 day battery life?!
Re:Ask HN: Which abandoned proprietary software would you re... by jvagner on Saturday December 08, 2018 @11:51AM (#18636082)
Me and my girlfriend been using the Bip for a month now.

We run every day.

The battery life is pretty phenomenal, the step counter and weather bits are handy, the GPS just works, you need the AmazTools app if you want to share your runs to Strava (but it works great), I have an alarm set to shake my wrist every morning at 7am, and if I destroy the watch.. it was all of $70.

The continuous heart rate monitoring is also handy for our gym and zone workouts. I wish it had multiple levels of heart zone alarms, like the TICKR FIT app -- which is amazing for more refined zone training, but it will tell you when you pop out of zone 2 on a run, so it's still useful.

Sleep tracking works great for my girlfriend, doesn't work great for me. So I turned it off and that doesn't bother me.

I think it's a great starter watch, I can see upgrading to the Garmen vivoactive 3 Music, since I'm not very interested in an Apple Watch.

Re:Ask HN: Which abandoned proprietary software would you re... by StavrosK on Saturday December 08, 2018 @08:49PM (#18638737)
I just preordered the Amazfit Verge. I've tried smart watches in the past, and I never could find any use for them, as I'm the type of person who silences all notifications, but now I play tennis and maybe it'll be useful there. It was mostly just an impulse purchase, but I hope I don't regret it.
Re:Ask HN: Which abandoned proprietary software would you re... by albertgoeswoof on Saturday December 08, 2018 @02:20PM (#18636978)
It’s not quite 30 days for me, more like a couple of weeks, but I have everything enabled.

It genuinely is really great, if it had an app ecosystem, slightly higher resolution and was a little smaller / more stylish it would be perfect. A FOSS OS and support for emojis would also be nice

Re:Ask HN: Which abandoned proprietary software would you re... by ustamills on Saturday December 08, 2018 @12:19PM (#18636261)
I have two Pebble/Rebble watches that I still wear. I love them!