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Re:American Entrepreneurs Who Flocked to China Are Heading H... by bb88 on Friday December 07, 2018 @01:41PM (#18630281)
> But there isn't any indication they've tampered with elections for example.

So, other than Chinagate you mean?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_United_States_campaign_fi...

Re:American Entrepreneurs Who Flocked to China Are Heading H... by blacksmith_tb on Friday December 07, 2018 @01:51PM (#18630398)
I had forgotten about it, but your link says nothing was proven... so a bit different than more recent events[1]

1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_interference_in_the_20...

Re:American Entrepreneurs Who Flocked to China Are Heading H... by bb88 on Friday December 07, 2018 @02:15PM (#18630628)
You mean like this? Note this is not the president saying it, it's national security agencies.

https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/412292-us-warns...

And then of course you over look all the chinese spying that's been going on the last two decades -- both corporate and government sponsored.

Let's be clear, China is not a good actor. And whitewashing history to make them seem otherwise is not being honest.

Re:American Entrepreneurs Who Flocked to China Are Heading H... by ngngngng on Friday December 07, 2018 @01:57PM (#18630469)
I'd like to introduce you to 62,979,879 people that don't believe there was any Russian interference in the United States last election.
Re:American Entrepreneurs Who Flocked to China Are Heading H... by txru on Friday December 07, 2018 @02:08PM (#18630552)
Re:American Entrepreneurs Who Flocked to China Are Heading H... by tejon on Friday December 07, 2018 @02:19PM (#18630669)
GP was mocking the belief of ~63M people (and GGP's parallel belief by proxy), not holding it up as evidence.
Re:American Entrepreneurs Who Flocked to China Are Heading H... by ngngngng on Friday December 07, 2018 @02:45PM (#18630892)
Exactly. And as many people appear to have turned on Trump online since the election, I've yet to meet someone in person that voted for him that is not a huge fan of him.
Re:American Entrepreneurs Who Flocked to China Are Heading H... by bdhe on Friday December 07, 2018 @02:09PM (#18630562)
That's neither here nor there is it? The 1996 investigations led to no indictments and if anything widespread criticism of how Congressional investigations wasted time. The 2016 investigations are still ongoing with dozens of indictments, several guilty pleas, and jail-time.
Re:American Entrepreneurs Who Flocked to China Are Heading H... by adventured on Friday December 07, 2018 @02:30PM (#18630765)
There were multiple people arrested and convicted for campaign crimes relating to what prompted the 1996 investigations in fact. With some of it pointing directly back to Beijing on record. To say nothing of the unusual amounts of Chinese money flowing into Hillary's campaign when she was running against Obama [1]. The Chinese foreign money connection to the Clintons goes back a very long ways.

Then conveniently Bill Clinton goes on a blitz to get China into the WTO during his Presidency.

See (2017 article):

“The FBI uncovered evidence about the alleged plan, in part, through electronic intercepts. ... The plan, first discussed in early 1995, called for Chinese officials to channel more than $2 million into U.S. campaigns."

"This isn’t even ancient history. Last week a 17-year-old video surfaced from convicted Clinton fundraiser Johnny Chung in which he confessed to fronting for Chinese intelligence and worried about being bumped off."

https://www.wsj.com/articles/china-was-bill-clintons-russia-...

[1] http://content.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1679979,0...

Re:American Entrepreneurs Who Flocked to China Are Heading H... by mc32 on Friday December 07, 2018 @02:18PM (#18630657)
But none so far about election tampering. More anout lying about timelines, not registering as foreign agents, etc. It’s like a big version of the Martha Stewart trial —so far anyhow.