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Re:Ask HN: How do I give my son a head start? by edw519 on Tuesday November 02, 2010 @02:14PM (#1861605)
Love him. Unconditionally. And make sure he always knows it.

Everything else is just details.

With this, things will inevitably fall nicely into place, no matter what tactics you take.

Without it, he will be fucked up no matter what you do and will be coming to hacker news in 2028 posting, "Ask HN: I'm confused and depressed and don't know why."

Re:Ask HN: How do I give my son a head start? by araneae on Tuesday November 02, 2010 @04:16PM (#1862145)
I'm sorry, I really dislike this answer.

Obviously this guy knows that he should love his kid. He was looking for specific answers on how to introduce the kid to computing. And you gave him this glib, content-less, greeting card answer.

I cannot believe this is the top comment.

Re:Ask HN: How do I give my son a head start? by Calamitous on Tuesday November 02, 2010 @06:13PM (#1862617)
My takeaway was more along the lines of "Don't worry so much about optimizing his learning path just yet. Love him and care for him and everything will work itself out.

We all want what's best for our children. Unfortunately, this frequently turns into crazy helicopter parenting and a hyperfocus on academics, sports, and activities.

I love my son and I want him to be the best he can be, but I'm more than willing to trade a few of his future IQ points to never ever let him wonder if he's loved for himself, or just his accomplishments.

Re:Ask HN: How do I give my son a head start? by signal on Tuesday November 02, 2010 @07:08PM (#1862821)
Agreed. Obviously OP loves his kid, he's not asking: "How do I make my child a cyborg?"

Unconditional love is hardly a guideline anyways. Kids need rules, instruction, challenge, inspiration and just generally good examples to follow. That's the tough part. Loving your own child is an achievement akin to dressing yourself.

Re:Ask HN: How do I give my son a head start? by Tichy on Tuesday November 02, 2010 @05:46PM (#1862509)
Why is it obvious? If it was so obvious, there wouldn't be so many parents failing in it (many perhaps unwillingly).
Re:Ask HN: How do I give my son a head start? by pavel_lishin on Tuesday November 02, 2010 @06:11PM (#1862609)
And yet, if those parents read that comment, they wouldn't have an overnight change of heart.
Re:Ask HN: How do I give my son a head start? by signal on Wednesday November 03, 2010 @11:05AM (#1865019)
People fail at obvious all the time. Examples: Belief in god, Smoking, Voting conservative, Racism, Drinking and driving, Eating junk food, etc, etc
Re:Ask HN: How do I give my son a head start? by pavel_lishin on Tuesday November 02, 2010 @04:21PM (#1862170)
It's not the highest scoring one, by far. How is the algorithm determined?
Re:Ask HN: How do I give my son a head start? by codexon on Tuesday November 02, 2010 @06:04PM (#1862582)
Age and average comment karma.
Re:Ask HN: How do I give my son a head start? by pavel_lishin on Tuesday November 02, 2010 @02:23PM (#1861636)
Also, be sure to feed him and provide him with all the water and oxygen he needs.
Re:Ask HN: How do I give my son a head start? by awzum on Tuesday November 02, 2010 @03:36PM (#1861953)
I slightly disagree. Obviously love him, but don't smother and coddle him. Spend as much time as possible interacting with him as well as teaching independence and to think on his own. Interaction is the key.
Re:Ask HN: How do I give my son a head start? by KoZeN on Wednesday November 03, 2010 @05:30AM (#1864284)
With all due respect, this much is blatantly obvious but not necessarily the key to giving him a head start.

My father loved me unconditionally and I can't think of a single moment of my childhood where I ever questioned his love for me but with that said, my childhood was a mess. I sincerely struggled at school, I lacked any decent social skills and I was incredibly naïve when it came to how the world worked.

Whilst I'm happy that I've overcome these obstacles, I can think of plenty my father could have done to counter-act them in the first place.

Like every other father (and mother) that participates in this community, I would move mountains for my boy. I would happily lay my own life on the line to protect him and the question I initially asked was based on the assumption that the basic fundamentals of being a good parent were a given.

Now that those bases are covered, what can I do to ensure that he is at least one step ahead of the average kid growing up in a world where technology develops at an incredible rate and those who embrace this change storm ahead of the mean?

Re:Ask HN: How do I give my son a head start? by 9ec4c12949a4f3 on Tuesday November 02, 2010 @03:30PM (#1861933)
I grew up confused and depressed, meanwhile, my parents did their best to show me every day they loved me and still do, but I feel entirely distant from them. I'm over 20 years old.

GG logic, gg.

Re:Ask HN: How do I give my son a head start? by antareus on Wednesday November 03, 2010 @06:24PM (#1866782)
This may sound extreme but one way to choose to view the confusion and depression is that it is a necessary part of growth:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_disintegration

Mind you, even Dabrowski (who created the theory) differentiates between depression that instigates changes vs. depression that leaves you spinning your wheels. I'd venture that anyone who has been seriously depressed has experience with both types.

Re:Ask HN: How do I give my son a head start? by Oxryly on Tuesday November 02, 2010 @09:33PM (#1863225)
Tragically, it's necessary but not sufficient.
Re:Ask HN: How do I give my son a head start? by Tichy on Tuesday November 02, 2010 @05:59PM (#1862562)
Any idea why?
Re:Ask HN: How do I give my son a head start? by 9ec4c12949a4f3 on Wednesday November 03, 2010 @09:14AM (#1864642)
Could be anything from my wildly different views on the world (theism vs atheism; government's place, opinions of other people, etc...), to being the middle child. My two sisters seem to get along fine with them.
Re:Ask HN: How do I give my son a head start? by albertcardona on Tuesday November 02, 2010 @03:50PM (#1862017)
Meta: interesting that you think HN will exist in a recognizable form by 2028. 18 years ago, the web looked very different. I wonder what will we call "web" in 2028.
Re:Ask HN: How do I give my son a head start? by pavel_lishin on Tuesday November 02, 2010 @04:22PM (#1862175)
How do you mean? People still used browsers to make requests over http, didn't they?

Actually, I guess there was a lot of text-based interaction going on, come to think of it. Telnet, etc. Hm.

Re:Ask HN: How do I give my son a head start? by 9ec4c12949a4f3 on Tuesday November 02, 2010 @04:31PM (#1862208)
I still telnet. So much fun!

Wish gopher's were still around. I was thinking of using a gopher to do a blog with.

Re:Ask HN: How do I give my son a head start? by Tichy on Tuesday November 02, 2010 @05:52PM (#1862531)
I've heard it is still around. Never knew how to use it myself.
Re:Ask HN: How do I give my son a head start? by eru on Tuesday November 02, 2010 @08:50PM (#1863108)
Try: telnet nethack.alt.org