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Re:Photons, Quasars and the Possibility of Free Will by dragonwriter on Wednesday December 05, 2018 @12:32PM (#18610423)
> The posters I'm engaging here don't believe in uncaused causation

Free will is, by definition, both uncaused and a cause of other actions. If you don't believe in uncaused causation, you don't believe in free will, but you can't discuss the meaning and implication of free will in any meaningful way while ignoring the entirety of it's definition whether or not you believe in free will (or the broader conceptual class of uncaused causes of which free will is a part.)

Re:Photons, Quasars and the Possibility of Free Will by naasking on Wednesday December 05, 2018 @12:48PM (#18610591)
> Free will is, by definition, both uncaused and a cause of other actions.

No it's not. The free will debate is about defining what free will actually means so that we can assign moral responsibility.

The scientific meaning of "free will" as experimenters being able to setup their instruments free from influence of that which they're measuring is not what's being discussed here.