Re:Why Do Hospitals Hate Sleep So Much?
by pc86 on Wednesday December 05, 2018 @09:41AM
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Saying that "pre-med training" (whatever that means) consists of 120 hour work weeks is not accurate but it's probably just because we're using the wrong words.
Pre-med = college, and aside from the highly scientific work load is no different than any other college experience.
Medical school (no longer called "pre-med" by anyone) is typically 2 years of classes and 2 years of clinical rotations. The rotations are not going to be 120 hours a week but may be 60-80. But unless you go to a teaching hospital and consent to student contact (which may or may not be a requirement of treatment) no med school student is touching you.
Residency is after med school (they're full doctors now) where you train your specialty, and at least in the 4 year program I'm familiar with, their title is intern, resident, resident, senior resident for each of the four years. They have increasingly high levels of responsibility as they progress and by the 4th year they are basically oversight/management of the other residents who assist on complex cases and bring in at attending physician(s) for big stuff. Hours are typically 80+ and I'm sure you could approach 100 for very demanding or emergent specialties but it's certainly not "pre-med training" and 120 is pushing it for sure.
After you graduate residency you move to an attending, fellowship, or research position and the hours drop back down to the 60-70 range and decrease as you gain seniority.
Re:Why Do Hospitals Hate Sleep So Much?
by jyounker on Thursday December 06, 2018 @05:43AM
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And on top of those 60-80 hours per week you need to add all the time prepping for exams and boards, correct? That study time is work too, and that pushing up to 120 hours per week.
Pre-med = college, and aside from the highly scientific work load is no different than any other college experience.
Medical school (no longer called "pre-med" by anyone) is typically 2 years of classes and 2 years of clinical rotations. The rotations are not going to be 120 hours a week but may be 60-80. But unless you go to a teaching hospital and consent to student contact (which may or may not be a requirement of treatment) no med school student is touching you.
Residency is after med school (they're full doctors now) where you train your specialty, and at least in the 4 year program I'm familiar with, their title is intern, resident, resident, senior resident for each of the four years. They have increasingly high levels of responsibility as they progress and by the 4th year they are basically oversight/management of the other residents who assist on complex cases and bring in at attending physician(s) for big stuff. Hours are typically 80+ and I'm sure you could approach 100 for very demanding or emergent specialties but it's certainly not "pre-med training" and 120 is pushing it for sure.
After you graduate residency you move to an attending, fellowship, or research position and the hours drop back down to the 60-70 range and decrease as you gain seniority.