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Re:Microsoft is building a Chromium browser to replace Edge ... by jhare on Tuesday December 04, 2018 @12:26AM (#18596560)
Why do we devs get the blame for avoiding their crap browser all that has burned us over and over? Repeatedly. For years. Hours and hours of frustration on this front.

Encouraging the best-working alternative is the creation of monoculture?

C'mon

Re:Microsoft is building a Chromium browser to replace Edge ... by ComputerGuru on Tuesday December 04, 2018 @12:35AM (#18596618)
Edge isn’t IE. That you don’t know that is indicative of the problem.
Re:Microsoft is building a Chromium browser to replace Edge ... by npolet on Tuesday December 04, 2018 @04:27AM (#18597813)
It almost doesn't matter. Do you remember the hours and hours spent trying to debug something on IE that worked perfectly on Chrome/Firefox/Safari? All because MS didn't follow the standards that everyone was getting used to and had (mostly) advocated?

The thought of having to do anything remotely similar to that makes me shiver. Since MS made me go through that years ago, I simply will not go through that again. They did such a poor job with IE and it takes time for wounds to heal. Might sound a bit pathetic, but working life without having to develop for IE is much nicer. Chrome, Firefox and Safari generally behave in a similar manner. Yes, there are some inconsistencies, but nothing like IE. Especially the earlier versions (6!).

Re:Microsoft is building a Chromium browser to replace Edge ... by bayindirh on Tuesday December 04, 2018 @01:19AM (#18596828)
Edge is an evolution of Internet Explorer. They removed some of the quirks they have added over the years, modernized the engine, but it's Internet Explorer to its core. It's just rebranded.
Re:Microsoft is building a Chromium browser to replace Edge ... by alimbada on Tuesday December 04, 2018 @04:44AM (#18597911)
No, it's a new browser built from the ground up with none of the baggage of IE.
Re:Microsoft is building a Chromium browser to replace Edge ... by bwindels on Tuesday December 04, 2018 @08:08AM (#18599064)
Thought so too, but MS has apparently said it is a fork:

https://www.neowin.net/news/whats-powering-spartan-internet-...:

> The Spartan rendering engine (edgehtml.dll) is a new component and separate from Trident (mshtml.dll). The new engine began as a fork of Trident, but has since diverged rapidly over the past many months, similar to how several other browser engines have started as forks prior to diverging. The new rendering engine is also being built with a very different set of principles than Trident - for example: a focus on interoperability and the removal of document modes.

Re:Microsoft is building a Chromium browser to replace Edge ... by bayindirh on Tuesday December 04, 2018 @06:40AM (#18598501)
Any reliable sources? I'd love to read more, and correct my knowledge if it's wrong.
Re:Microsoft is building a Chromium browser to replace Edge ... by pndy on Tuesday December 04, 2018 @08:20AM (#18599156)
Edge uses forked Trident (named EdgeHTML) which was stripped of legacy code and tries to be compatible with WebKit engine: https://www.neowin.net/news/whats-powering-spartan-internet-...
Re:Microsoft is building a Chromium browser to replace Edge ... by bayindirh on Tuesday December 04, 2018 @08:21AM (#18599166)
That's also what I tried to say in my previous (grandparent) comment, no? :)
Re:Microsoft is building a Chromium browser to replace Edge ... by pndy on Tuesday December 04, 2018 @08:52AM (#18599377)
Was reading about Edge before posting comment so I guess I was bit too late to help :P
Re:Microsoft is building a Chromium browser to replace Edge ... by ianschmitz on Tuesday December 04, 2018 @12:49AM (#18596672)
Have you opened up the dev tools?
Re:Microsoft is building a Chromium browser to replace Edge ... by taneq on Tuesday December 04, 2018 @01:20AM (#18596834)
The problem is that devs got so sick of IE6 not being standards compliant (despite the fact that it was released before the standards were finalised and it was so good that people kept using it for years) that they refused to even contemplate any MS web browser ever again?
Re:Microsoft is building a Chromium browser to replace Edge ... by Piskvorrr on Tuesday December 04, 2018 @04:03AM (#18597688)
Nope. IE6 was great, when it was released. That was...in 2001, seventeen years ago. Then MS sat on its hands for years, leaving IE6 in the dust. Then it suddenly woke up, and released IE7...which didn't differ much...and IE8, which was only about a year behind everyone else. And then MS sat on its hands again.

I remember the Second Browser War, and I find your account disingenuous at the very least. (And that's even before mentioning the bundling tactics)

Re:Microsoft is building a Chromium browser to replace Edge ... by taneq on Tuesday December 04, 2018 @04:06AM (#18597702)
Uh, wow - I said "it was so good that people kept using it for years" meaning "until 2005 or something", not "and IE6 is awesome and we should all use it until today".

I think your post here is more about your own PTSD from having to support IE6 than it was about my post. :S

Re:Microsoft is building a Chromium browser to replace Edge ... by Piskvorrr on Tuesday December 04, 2018 @04:40AM (#18597879)
Nope again. "People kept using it for years" because the web was Built For Microsoft Explorer, to the tune of `if (!navigator.userAgent.match(/MSIE/)) window.location='notsupported.htm';`

Not at all similar to today's web Built For Google Chrome, notatall, noooo.