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Re:Lime and Bird are growing rapidly by qudat on Monday December 03, 2018 @07:08PM (#18594530)
> People drive them on the sidewalks

Where else would they drive them? On the road? They would just contribute to the thousands of cyclists that die or are seriously injured every year.

If you are suggesting that every electric vehicle be banned because sidewalks are for pedestrians only then I disagree. Streets are for cars only, don't let these fake bike lanes fool you.

Re:Lime and Bird are growing rapidly by sonofaplum on Monday December 03, 2018 @07:20PM (#18594616)
Vehicles that move faster than pedestrians should go on the road, like bicycles do. As a bike rider, its a vastly superior option that going on the sidewalk.
Re:Lime and Bird are growing rapidly by anonytrary on Monday December 03, 2018 @08:53PM (#18595203)
In more developed areas, there are three options. Fast (main road for cars), medium (bike lane) and slow (sidewalks). I'd imagine birds would ride in the medium and slow lanes. They go up to 15 MPH, which is the run-speed of a human. Should runners be on the bike lane? I don't think so.
Re:Lime and Bird are growing rapidly by xur17 on Monday December 03, 2018 @09:02PM (#18595295)
> In more developed areas, there are three options. Fast (main road for cars), medium (bike lane) and slow (sidewalks). I'd imagine birds would ride in the medium and slow lanes.

And to be clear 'bike lane' != road shoulder with a bike painted on it. A bike lane should have at least some amount of separation from the road in the same way that sidewalks are separated.

I'm hopeful that the popularity of scooters speeds up the adoption of medium speed lanes.

Re:Lime and Bird are growing rapidly by sonofaplum on Monday December 03, 2018 @10:15PM (#18595822)
runners have a much better stopping speed than bicycles, and also don't have sharp metal or carbon fiber frames that can hurt pedestrians :)

Also 15 mph is a sub 4:20 mile, and for most people will be pretty close to a flat out sprint. Not super adviseable on sidewalks either. Most joggers will be going half that speed.

walking, 3mph

running at an 9 min mile 6.5mph

Re:Lime and Bird are growing rapidly by tuxxy on Monday December 03, 2018 @09:47PM (#18595645)
The sidewalk is a far more statistically dangerous place for cyclists (and scooters, by extension).

Here's an FAQ from Cornell on this: http://www.bike.cornell.edu/pdfs/Sidewalk_biking_FAQ.pdf

Re:Lime and Bird are growing rapidly by ryanwaggoner on Tuesday December 04, 2018 @04:30AM (#18597830)
That certainly doesn’t show that it’s far more dangerous.

In every scenario listed, a minority of motorist / cyclist accidents at intersections involved a cyclist on the sidewalk. Meaning that the majority of such accidents occurred where the cyclist was not on the sidewalk.

We actually don’t have enough info from that to say which is safer. If 99% of cyclists ride in the sidewalk, but the 1% who don’t make up more than half the accidents, I’d say riding on the sidewalk is far safer.

I’m not necessarily disagreeing with your conclusion. I just don’t like the use of faux data to show a conclusion that feels right.

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Re:Lime and Bird are growing rapidly by baroffoos on Monday December 03, 2018 @07:56PM (#18594831)
All roads without separated tracks for cyclists/scooters should be limited to 30-40km/h