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Re:The Friendship That Made Google Huge by jamestimmins on Monday December 03, 2018 @06:28PM (#18594260)
Anyone know where folks like Peter Norvig and Urs Hölzle fit on the L1-L11 scale? I assumed that all of the early employees/now legends were at the top level, so I was surprised to see the article state otherwise.
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Re:The Friendship That Made Google Huge by Shebanator on Monday December 03, 2018 @06:57PM (#18594448)
Peter is a director, and Urs is a senior VP. As such, they are now both on the management ladder. I think the article was discussing only people who were on the eng ladder.
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Re:The Friendship That Made Google Huge by stdplaceholder on Monday December 03, 2018 @06:48PM (#18594395)
Urs doesn't need a level on the individual contributor scale; he's a Senior Vice President.
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Re:The Friendship That Made Google Huge by joshuamorton on Monday December 03, 2018 @08:25PM (#18595013)
Urs however does have one, he's listed as a Google fellow (L10) if you go looking.

As a general comment, to compare, a director is L8 equivalent, and VP L9, (but on the management ladder) although at VP+ it gets tricky because there are subdivisions.

Also worth noting that the management ladder goes up more. But the total number of people who are >L11 is probably <11, so it's not like there's any data on how exactly that's broken up.

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Re:The Friendship That Made Google Huge by dweekly on Tuesday December 04, 2018 @12:50AM (#18596687)
Director is L8, Sr Director is L9, VP is L10, SVP is L11.
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Re:The Friendship That Made Google Huge by sshumaker on Tuesday December 04, 2018 @10:58AM (#18600555)
Not exactly; there are 3 levels of VPs and 3 for SVPs (at least in 2015). It’s just not publicized.
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Re:The Friendship That Made Google Huge by pk2200 on Monday December 03, 2018 @08:24PM (#18594997)
I can't remember what Senior VP equates to on the tech ladder, but in terms of his overall impact on the company, Urs is definitely an 11.
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