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Re:Why only 2% of Chinese pay any income tax by jdblair on Monday December 03, 2018 @10:10AM (#18589316)
You charge a carbon tax at production of the raw feedstocks that contain the carbon (coal, oil and gas), not by tracking individual usage. Everyone pays the carbon tax because the price increase necessarily feeds through the whole economy of products that are made from those feedstocks.
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Re:Why only 2% of Chinese pay any income tax by oarsinsync on Monday December 03, 2018 @10:15AM (#18589354)
Sounds like a consumption tax. Doesn't that end up causing a higher effective rate on lower earners, and a lower effective rate on higher earners?
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Re:Why only 2% of Chinese pay any income tax by intopieces on Monday December 03, 2018 @10:31AM (#18589476)
Yes, which is then negated with rebates / negative income tax.
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Re:Why only 2% of Chinese pay any income tax by oarsinsync on Monday December 03, 2018 @11:44AM (#18590167)
So the end result is... lower taxes all around? Where does the deficit get made up?
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Re:Why only 2% of Chinese pay any income tax by intopieces on Monday December 03, 2018 @03:58PM (#18592923)
High income earners don’t get the credit. Similar to how there is an income cap on incentives for EVs in California
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Re:Why only 2% of Chinese pay any income tax by oarsinsync on Tuesday December 04, 2018 @04:43AM (#18597901)
But high income earners still benefit from a lower effective rate from the change.

If low income earners pay a higher effective rate than they would under income taxation, which is to be neutralised by credits, and higher income earners pay a lower effective rate, who makes up the deficit?

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Re:Why only 2% of Chinese pay any income tax by jdblair on Monday December 03, 2018 @10:52AM (#18589636)
Yes, it's a consumption tax on something you want to reduce the consumption of, not across the board on all products. Most proposals include an offset (e.g., basic income guarantee or negative income tax rate) for low income earners.
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Re:Why only 2% of Chinese pay any income tax by londons_explore on Monday December 03, 2018 @10:17AM (#18589370)
If done on a world-scale this would work great.

It turns out if just one country tries do do that, it's pretty much impossible to correctly tax items that go in or out of the country border though. An error in either direction (too much or too little tax) will severely harm local businesses and the environment.

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