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Re:Refusal after Refusal by necovek on Monday December 03, 2018 @07:12AM (#18588135)
Does anyone into anything out of passion not believe so?

I believed so as I enrolled into mathematics, physics and computer science studies, only to be very much disappointed with academia (more than I expected: I did not expect much, but what I've met was sadder than I could envision).

Re:Refusal after Refusal by subw00f on Monday December 03, 2018 @07:25AM (#18588196)
Yeah, maybe when you're 16~18, then you grow up and understand just how hard it is to make a difference even in your own social circle, let alone the world. I guess people should stop pretending all the great man and woman we hear about today did their thing alone. They all needed someone else, even if just to make their ideas popular or to give them financial means.
Re:Refusal after Refusal by necovek on Monday December 03, 2018 @07:49AM (#18588311)
I've never claimed I envisioned doing it solo. That's where most of the disappointment actually came from: teaching assistants and professors were so uninterested in the subjects they were giving, they'd hardly motivate anyone, let alone give them a chance to participate in anything world-changing. Even to the point that out-of-the-box creativity was punished. That drove the student body to turn into an exam-passing automata.

Universities are a perfect place for that, and I hoped for such a stimulating environment. I did end up meeting a teacher or two in later years that met my expectations, but they never stuck around long enough.

And no, the fame is not the driver, imho: I believe all humans would gladly contribute to a challenging problem solution, without requiring ego satisfaction (that can come later :)).

Re:Refusal after Refusal by freeopinion on Monday December 03, 2018 @01:18PM (#18591295)
One of my favorite lessons in making a difference:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fW8amMCVAJQ

Re:Refusal after Refusal by circlefavshape on Monday December 03, 2018 @07:56AM (#18588369)
Of course they do. Do you think everyone who plays sport believes that their sport can somehow transform the world? Do you seriously think every bassoon player and salsa dancer believes they're going to change history?