Monarch butterfly populations in U.S. west are down an order of magnitude

Re:Monarch butterfly populations in U.S. west are down an or... by tstrimple on Sunday December 02, 2018 @11:13AM (#18582883)

> It seems to me that all of these problems -- the insect apocalypse, general biodiversity loss, climate change, all the way to the depression and anxiety epidemics, economic inequity, etc., stem from the same general principle:

I thought you were going to say capitalism.

[ Parent | on HN ]

Re:Monarch butterfly populations in U.S. west are down an or... by wgjordan on Sunday December 02, 2018 @02:07PM (#18583886)

According to Marx [1] our alienation from ourselves, each other, and nature is the product of (the capitalist relation to) labor:

> Through estranged, alienated labor, then, the worker produces the relationship to this labor of a man alien to labor and standing outside it. The relationship of the worker to labor creates the relation to it of the capitalist (or whatever one chooses to call the master of labor). Private property is thus the product, the result, the necessary consequence, of alienated labor, of the external relation of the worker to nature and to himself.

[1] https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1844/manuscripts...

[ Parent | on HN ]

Re:Monarch butterfly populations in U.S. west are down an or... by monktastic1 on Sunday December 02, 2018 @11:20AM (#18582916)

My sense is that capitalism is also a symptom of the same principle (which compels us to view nature as merely a "means of production").

[ Parent | on HN ]