I guess you’re right that I think that there are some people in some situations who you can’t talk out of violence. But being so generic and vague doesn’t help you understand the situation better. If you want to understand a situation you need to look at specific situations. Like I think by cycle of destruction you’re talking about something like how after the Iraq invasion a lot of Iraqi ex-soldiers had nothing to do and became a force for ISIS. That specific situation is a lot more of an interesting discussion to be had, and I think you can learn more from it than you can learn from a discussion about vague ideas.