Farm bankruptcies on the rise according to new Fed report

Re:Farm bankruptcies on the rise according to new Fed report by Aloha on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @01:52PM (#18545401)

I'll disagree with you on point one.

I can buy all sorts of US made shit, that is profitably sold, at reasonable prices, overalls, jeans, mattresses, washing machines, boots, cars - its that the margin is lower in the states as it costs 2-5% more to make something here.

The issue is, many things here cannot be made here with any ease, because the ecosystem for them no longer exists.

I'm willing to pay 10% more for american made things - I suspect most americans would be too, given the option.

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Re:Farm bankruptcies on the rise according to new Fed report by zjaffee on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @02:49PM (#18546025)

Exactly this, for most generic goods, automation has reached the point where the cost of producing goods somewhere not too far from a major American rail route is only marginally more expensive to deliver to the end consumer than had you produced it in China or elsewhere. The problem is that the Chinese manufacturing environment has a much tighter supply chain, where all the precursor products needed are also manufactured nearby with heavily optimized supply chains for getting raw goods where they need to be. This is especially true with high weight added products such as appliances.

The real problem is that we absolutely suck at manufacturing anything other than items that only really make sense to manufacture locally (certain food items, detergents), where in terms of exports we only exceed at certain types of heavy machinery along with certain chemical and polymer products.

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Re:Farm bankruptcies on the rise according to new Fed report by Aloha on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @03:28PM (#18546358)

I think its possible to bring the ecosystems back - but you have to start at the top of the chain, and work backwards. Not at the bottom up - make a price competitive business with foreign made bits, and eventually thru protectionist trade policy, bring back lower and lower parts of the supply chain - we may find it makes sense to stop half way down, and not try to bring it all back - we may not.

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Re:Farm bankruptcies on the rise according to new Fed report by 0xffff2 on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @03:57PM (#18546607)

Where can I buy US made jeans for 10% more than their typical internationally made counterparts? A pair of Levis or Wranglers runs somewhere between $30 and $50. I've never seen a pair of American made jeans for less than $200. Similar result with boots.

If US made was only 10% more, I would go out of my way to purchase only domestically produced goods, but when it's 100+%, it's really hard to justify.

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Re:Farm bankruptcies on the rise according to new Fed report by Aloha on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @11:12PM (#18549239)

https://www.round-house.com/collections/round-house-made-in-...

https://lcking.com/collections/jeans-pants

All US made stuff, decent quality and long lasting too - first link is made in Oklahoma, second on in Tennessee.

Start there - good boots are expensive no matter where you buy them - I have 100 dollar cowboy boots though, that are US made.

Boots of various styles, mostly western though - all US Made: https://www.justinboots.com/footwear/men_collections_shop-ma...

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Re:Farm bankruptcies on the rise according to new Fed report by Domenic_S on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @02:09PM (#18545584)

> many things here cannot be made here with any ease

Like what?

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Re:Farm bankruptcies on the rise according to new Fed report by Aloha on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @02:47PM (#18546005)

Electronics for one - there is no longer a domestic industry for jellybean components

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