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Re:I still miss my headphone jack, and I want it back by skgoa on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @03:11AM (#18540466)
> they've alienated so many people to find their own path when they don't include the adapter.

My iPhone came with an adapter, though. I continue using the same headphones as I did with my old phone.

Re:I still miss my headphone jack, and I want it back by pookieinc on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @03:35AM (#18540598)
My understanding is that the latest version of iPhone doesn't ship with the adapter anymore.[0]

0: https://www.theverge.com/2018/9/12/17827970/no-more-free-iph...

Re:I still miss my headphone jack, and I want it back by mcintyre1994 on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @06:00AM (#18541280)
Confirmed - XR didn't come with it, only lightning headphones.
Re:I still miss my headphone jack, and I want it back by skgoa on Wednesday November 28, 2018 @04:14AM (#18550235)
Well that sucks. Apple's policy of not including commonly needed adapters is a general point of criticism with this company, though. (and a very valid one.) IMO it's not an issue that stems specifically from the headphone jack removal.
Re:I still miss my headphone jack, and I want it back by daveFNbuck on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @03:30AM (#18540571)
I felt the same way about the adapter my phone came with, until I wanted to use the headphones on my desk at work and realized I couldn't do that because I left the adapter with the headphones in my car.
Re:I still miss my headphone jack, and I want it back by bogomipz on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @05:14AM (#18541060)
The problem with the headphone jack adapter is that it is mutually exclusive with input for the power cable.

Where this is particularly frustrating is when you are on a particularly long conference call and your phone starts to run out of charge. This happened regularly enough for me ditch the iphone.

I'm sure there yet another dongle you can buy to address this shortcoming though.

Re:I still miss my headphone jack, and I want it back by threeseed on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @05:50AM (#18541230)
Yes you can get a dual charging/headphone adapter for $2.65.

I really don't understand people who change entire platforms over such small amounts of money. I know for me personally my investment in apps and content is significantly more than just $2.65.

Re:I still miss my headphone jack, and I want it back by bogomipz on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @09:33AM (#18542539)
It's not about the additional cost of a few extra dollars.

It's a matter of practicality and convenience.

I don't want to have to worry about remembering the phone, the charger, the earbuds AND a dongle. In my opinion it's simply one concern too many for basic functionality. Functionality we used to have.

Re:I still miss my headphone jack, and I want it back by lowercased on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @10:04AM (#18542779)
100% agree. Relatedly, too, if they're so cheap... include one with the phone.

But yeah, we used to have the convenience of both (bluetooth and wired), now we pay more $ for less functionality and increased inconvenience. Holding on to my SE for the foreseeable.

Re:I still miss my headphone jack, and I want it back by salvar on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @07:03AM (#18541599)
Where can you get them for $2.65? I've never even seen one for sale.
Re:I still miss my headphone jack, and I want it back by Natanael_L on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @06:59AM (#18541568)
And how practical is it to keep track of yet another adapter?
Re:I still miss my headphone jack, and I want it back by threeseed on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @02:57PM (#18546081)
It's one adapter.

And you can permanently attach it to your headphones.

Re:I still miss my headphone jack, and I want it back by dragonwriter on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @03:13PM (#18546226)
> And you can permanently attach it to your headphones.

I can't permanently attach it to everything I might otherwise plug into my headphone jack, including things that I use occasionally but neither own nor have exclusive control over.

Sure, if I have one set of headphones, and use nothing else with the jack, the “you can permanently attach it” mitigation is, actually, something of a mitigation.

Also, Apple's adapter seems (from reports, including reviews at Apple's site) to either not support inline controls and headset mics consistently and/or to require plugging the adapter into the phone before the headset for some to work. And that's not even going to some cut-price, third-party charge+adaptor device.

Re:I still miss my headphone jack, and I want it back by lowercased on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @05:18AM (#18541078)
we'll get wireless charging at some point (though probably only if it doesn't interfere with 'thinness') and then we'll only have a couple hundred millions devices with that problem....
Re:I still miss my headphone jack, and I want it back by AstralStorm on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @06:39AM (#18541459)
Hey most lines have support for Qi standard. The trouble is that it's slow. As in slower than old USB 2 charging without any high current protocol.
Re:I still miss my headphone jack, and I want it back by skgoa on Wednesday November 28, 2018 @04:11AM (#18550223)
The iPhone already has wireless charging.
Re:I still miss my headphone jack, and I want it back by lloeki on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @05:37AM (#18541183)
While I mourn the practicality of the embedded jack on my iPhone 8, I've had quite a few headphones in a row whose jack ended up failing due to the way my phone is placed inside my pocket, and a repair was impossible, so that was quite an unexpected improvement to have the adapter possibly fail and be replaced at a very small cost instead of a full headset† going bust.

† five actually (100-300€ price range), two of which the cord is replaceable (which I did) but how long will that specific cord be available?

Re:I still miss my headphone jack, and I want it back by MaikuMori on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @06:33AM (#18541434)
You can cut off the jack and solder a new one. You also don't need specific cord, buy a new cord and add the jack. For non replaceable cords you can open up the headphones unsolder the old cord and solder a new one. Or you can cut the cable somewhere high and patch another cable.

If you can't do these things your self there is probably some cheap electronic repair shop nearby. Most likely cheaper than shipping new brand cable or replacement parts.

On side note plastic in one of my shure 840 joints broke and I managed to fix it by modeling and 3d printing it. They're working fine now. The only official way to fix that was to buy original head assembly and ship it, but that's almost as expensive as getting a new pair.

Repair is possible, just sometimes you need to be a bit creative.

Re:I still miss my headphone jack, and I want it back by lloeki on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @11:01AM (#18543406)
> Repair is possible, just sometimes you need to be a bit creative.

Indeed, and I attempted to do so myself since I know how to handle a soldering iron... yet some of them were in-ear, one was over ear but cracking its case was a one way destructive operation; some had those hair-thin copper wires downright coated with an insulating material that makes soldering a pain, if at all possible. I swear it's made on purpose to thwart attempts at repairs.

I bet I have broken more jacks in a couple of years than during the 20 years before that. Crazy.

Anyway that doesn't change the fact that before that I never thought about having a small, cheap jack-to-jack part in between the headphones and the playing device, as using the adapter was the first time I happened to do something similar, but that's not a property of the adapter itself; or rather, DAC, really, and I find it nice that there are alternative DACs available, at which point if I always have a DAC at hand, well it's less of a problem to not have a jack embedded), but really, I'd rather still have the jack, or having the removal of the jack coincide with the replacement of Lightning with USB-C (together with the USB-C situation not being such a bloody mess) and have some new universal standard emerge across all devices.

Re:I still miss my headphone jack, and I want it back by asaph on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @08:37AM (#18542138)
> I've had quite a few headphones in a row whose jack ended up failing due to the way my phone is placed inside my pocket, and a repair was impossible ...

Why don't you change the way you put it in your pocket?

Re:I still miss my headphone jack, and I want it back by tripzilch on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @11:45AM (#18543873)
> of which the cord is replaceable (which I did) but how long will that specific cord be available?

Isn't it a generic 3.5mm to 2.5mm jack for nearly most of them? All headphones with replaceable cords I own and have owned have this cable.

Re:I still miss my headphone jack, and I want it back by rosser on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @03:55AM (#18540702)
The included adapter only works for listening to audio. If your earbuds offer a mic or inline controls, those don't.
Re:I still miss my headphone jack, and I want it back by RandallBrown on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @08:40AM (#18542158)
The adapter works just fine with the inline controls on Apple's ear buds.
Re:I still miss my headphone jack, and I want it back by Mtinie on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @04:03AM (#18540750)
Not in the case of Bose QC15s, the mic works just fine through the adapter.
Re:I still miss my headphone jack, and I want it back by b3b0p on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @08:09AM (#18541992)
I have the adapter and both my headphones work with the adapter and controls fine. One is a Sony MDR-1R (v1) and the other is a Beoplay H6.
Re:I still miss my headphone jack, and I want it back by wish5031 on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @03:20AM (#18540514)
anecdotally, the adapter Apple provided me broke after about three weeks, and it seems like most of my family/friends are in similar situations
Re:I still miss my headphone jack, and I want it back by pseudolus on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @06:27AM (#18541403)
I've experienced a similar problem. I wear my headphones for about 1.5 - 2 hours per day while walking and I've found that I have to purchase a new adapter about every 45 days. I'm surprised that for the approximately $10 they charge for the adapter that they can't come up with a more durable design.
Re:I still miss my headphone jack, and I want it back by laken on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @09:50AM (#18542661)
All official first-party Apple cables have a 1-year warranty. You can just take it into an Apple Store and they'll just replace it.
Re:I still miss my headphone jack, and I want it back by novaRom on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @09:20AM (#18542431)
Most of Apple original cables are getting broken pretty much quickly. This is my experience. Why is that?