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Re:I still miss my headphone jack, and I want it back by kevincrane on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @01:34AM (#18540013)
> Anecdotally, dropping the headphone jack (and similarly adding the Touch Bar) has negatively impacted 0% of non-developers I’ve talked to about both.

How does removing the headphone benefit users? Also how does being a developer affect how one would listen to music on a phone?

Re:I still miss my headphone jack, and I want it back by nerdwaller on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @09:01AM (#18542290)
Lacking negative impacts doesn’t imply that there’s benefit, my anecdata seems to be mostly neutral.

The only thing that being developer hints at here is often that group is often more techie and either would be on wireless or have very strong opinions about their listening setup. But the same is likely true for audiophiles (likely skewing toward the 3.5mm).

For what it’s worth, I’m not arguing for the jack to be gone - just sharing the reception I’ve seen in my network.

Re:I still miss my headphone jack, and I want it back by kevincrane on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @01:08PM (#18544871)
The point about developers is probably fair (I don't think I necessarily agree with it, but we're an insular enough group that it might not be inaccurate).

The headphone jack issue just seems like a solution in search of a problem. No one was complaining about headphone jacks before, so in a very best case scenario there is no positive impact (you already have bluetooth headphones, you don't mind dongles, etc), but in a worst case scenario they made life measurably worse for users (you don't own bluetooth headphones, you don't want to have to deal with dongles, EarPods are super expensive for headphones; all of these are issues which disproportionately affect the less well-off of people who can't afford the headphone upgrades, which techies tend to not be).

Re:I still miss my headphone jack, and I want it back by nerdwaller on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @01:23PM (#18545046)
> The headphone jack issue just seems like a solution in search of a problem.

Agreed, removing it doesn't seem like it really gained anything. It was neutral at best and likely negative on the average, perhaps my smaller network that has discussed it just isn't negative and decided to not say anything at all.