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Re:I still miss my headphone jack, and I want it back by eksemplar on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @01:03AM (#18539851)
Why don’t you just plug your old headphones into the adapter and continue to use them?
Re:I still miss my headphone jack, and I want it back by PhasmaFelis on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @01:19AM (#18539943)
Because it's a pain in the ass to have to carry around another fiddly bit of tech gear which should have been completely unnecessary.

Yeah, it's petty. But literally no one benefits from the absence of jack (or at least no user), so why inflict even a petty annoyance on some users with nothing gained for it?

Re:I still miss my headphone jack, and I want it back by astrostl on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @01:37AM (#18540029)
I don’t use wired headphones, but I imagine that I would just leave the adapter on them 24/7?
Re:I still miss my headphone jack, and I want it back by konart on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @05:19AM (#18541081)
>but I imagine that I would just leave the adapter on them 24/7?

Except people often use same headphone with both - phone and pc, so you will have to remove the adapter anyway.

Re:I still miss my headphone jack, and I want it back by qwertay on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @07:21AM (#18541708)
Thats one of the most fatal flaws. Apples proprietary plugs aren't even standard across their own devices.
Re:I still miss my headphone jack, and I want it back by wl on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @02:10AM (#18540189)
I'd rather keep the 1/8" to 1/4" adapter on it. Lightning or USB C means now I have two adapters to carry around.
Re:I still miss my headphone jack, and I want it back by PhasmaFelis on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @02:11PM (#18545605)
It shouldn't be required either way, but I've occasionally zip-tied two adapters together so I can swap between them quickly.
Re:I still miss my headphone jack, and I want it back by PhasmaFelis on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @08:50AM (#18542224)
I think it might be slightly annoying to have a two-inch-long dongle hanging off your phone at all times, particularly on a brand of phone that's specifically marketed (and purchased) for being sleek and clean-lined.
Re:I still miss my headphone jack, and I want it back by skgoa on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @03:13AM (#18540477)
Correct. It really isn't a big deal.
Re:I still miss my headphone jack, and I want it back by Zach_the_Lizard on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @03:38AM (#18540617)
Until you want to charge and listen to music at the same time, which I wanted to do on a flight recently. I had to charge up to what I thought was enough and then put the headphones in. Annoying.

My wife also brought Lightning headphones, which didn't work with anything except her phone, leading to her using the cheap airline ear buds for the in flight entertainment system.

Re:I still miss my headphone jack, and I want it back by Mtinie on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @04:10AM (#18540782)
Alternatively you can pick up a dual-port adapter and charge while you listen:

For example, https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00E5AHZYA

Re:I still miss my headphone jack, and I want it back by lagadu on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @05:27AM (#18541129)
I take it you only use one set of headphones and that you only ever connect them to the phone?
Re:I still miss my headphone jack, and I want it back by eksemplar on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @01:34AM (#18540016)
Could they have build the iPhone XS with a jack? Because if they couldn’t, I’d argue that everyone who owns one benefits from it not having a jack.

The real annoyance for me isn’t the lack of the jack, it’s that they haven’t also replaced the jack on the MacBook line yet.

Re:I still miss my headphone jack, and I want it back by city41 on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @02:03AM (#18540154)
Why couldn’t they build it with a jack? Due to the thickness?

I’m typing this out on my iPhone 6 (which I will keep until it disintegrates because of its headphone jack) and it is plenty thin. I think only Apple themselves are obsessed with thin devices.

Re:I still miss my headphone jack, and I want it back by jakeogh on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @02:35AM (#18540295)
Heh. No. It's about DRM. Incrementalisim is powerful. They just pretend it's not.
Re:I still miss my headphone jack, and I want it back by hutattedonmyarm on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @02:52AM (#18540361)
The 6 is the thinnest of them, 6S and onwards are all thicker
Re:I still miss my headphone jack, and I want it back by Cogito on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @02:39AM (#18540309)
Thinness and waterproofing are the two things I've heard that lead to removing the jack.

Neither seems insurmountable, but if you want to try and remove as many obstacles as possible in the search of those two things then the headphone jack is apparently one of the simpler ones.

Speakers, camera lens, physical buttons, charging, and data transfer are the remaining ones I can think of, and many of those have already been replaced in some models.

Re:I still miss my headphone jack, and I want it back by yellowapple on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @02:46AM (#18540345)
Samsung's been shipping waterproof (or at least water-resistant) headphone-jacked phones for years now.
Re:I still miss my headphone jack, and I want it back by icebraining on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @06:16AM (#18541363)
Yeah, I mean it's not like they need to allow air to pass to the interior of the phone. All you need is a couple of exposed metal tabs, no different than the USB/lightning port.
Re:I still miss my headphone jack, and I want it back by Cogito on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @03:00AM (#18540403)
Exactly, I think there are solutions for more or less everything I listed, or solutions could be found if necessary.

I think the headphone jack is a very practical component of the phone, and miss it regularly, but removing it does remove a few limitations on the designer.

At some point, in perhaps the not too distant future, I wouldn't be surprised if phones had been reduced down to look like not much more than a piece of glass. Maybe even a piece of flexible glass!

That's definitely been the trend for a while now, and things like edge to edge screens and wireless charging move us further in that direction. Thankfully neither of those seem to have necessitated the removal of some other function. There have been other casualties other on this path to simplification, such as the removal of the physical home button, but I don't think any which leave as big a gap as the headphone jack.

Re:I still miss my headphone jack, and I want it back by lagadu on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @05:41AM (#18541195)
That would definitely be cool, we see them fairly often in modern scifi films/shows too nowadays.
Re:I still miss my headphone jack, and I want it back by lagadu on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @05:39AM (#18541190)
Can't be thinness because the thinnest iphone ever is the 6s, which has a headphone jack and it can't be waterproofing because android makers seem to do waterproof phones with jacks just fine some of them even thinner than iphones too.
Re:I still miss my headphone jack, and I want it back by flurdy on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @04:55AM (#18540979)
Nooo. Don't take my headphone port from my MBP!

In my home office, I have it wired to my simple mixer and amp with which two other computers also connect to. And from that split into my speakers and a pair of headset.

All non-digital and no USB involved with other things that can go wrong. I am no Hi-Fi buff, I just like one volume and power button when I need to silence or amp things.

Whilst commuting on the train I also use the headphone jack, even though I also have a Bluetooth headset, but it is limited to two sources which are already used up by my iPad and phone.

I don't want to yet again swear internally whilst standing on a busy tube with 1000 other people with Bluetooth devices, and having to reset the pairing on my iPad/iPhone.

Ps. I have an old phone with a 3.5mm jack, but I never use it. I use audio on my phone only when commuting or walking and then use Bluetooth. But my old iPad and MBP are stationary so I only use 3.5mm devices with them.