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Re:Breathing Through the Nose May Offer Unique Brain Benefits by graeme on Sunday November 25, 2018 @11:19AM (#18527448)
This technique appears to habe cured my physical anxiety. I learned of it six weeks ago, and had had such anxiety for two years post burnout. Now it's gone. I'm amazed.

There were a couple other things that may have helped. I wrote down my main source of worry, and considered it in depth, worst case, odds, how to recover, and it became clear that it's not actually an urgent problem.

Don't know which one had the greater effect, I did both at once. But I could feel the 4*4 breathing blocking a physical anxiety response in the middle of one happening.

Re:Breathing Through the Nose May Offer Unique Brain Benefits by maxxxxx on Sunday November 25, 2018 @12:10PM (#18527687)
"Don't know which one had the greater effect, I did both at once. But I could feel the 4*4 breathing blocking a physical anxiety response in the middle of one happening. "

To me it feels the other way. I feel the breathing opens up something that allows me to release the anxiety. In the end it's probably the same just from a different viewpoint.

Re:Breathing Through the Nose May Offer Unique Brain Benefits by graeme on Sunday November 25, 2018 @12:20PM (#18527740)
I think so. Release could well be what happened.

Basically before the anxierty happened liked this:

1. Minor negative stimulus appears. I could feel the body react.

2. When I inhaled, and not before, my neck would feel some tension. This would persist a bit.

I had ried breath holding before, but that just delayed the stress feeling. Instead, I:

1. Held breath and counted to 4 2. Exhaled sharply 3. Inhaled a bit, and counted to four 4. Repeat if necessary

Thr new elements were counting, and the exhale before inhale. Followeed byna knowledge that I had two more steps to do: inhaling and counting. Rather than merely an uncontrolledminhalation and hope of no stress.

Interestingly, I rarely need the breathing now. My bosy changed its reaction to the minor stresssors. Maybe I’m just less on edge and less reactive, and the breathing helped my body come down from that reactive state.

Re:Breathing Through the Nose May Offer Unique Brain Benefits by erikpukinskis on Sunday November 25, 2018 @02:56PM (#18528664)
Love the algorithmic reduction here
Re:Breathing Through the Nose May Offer Unique Brain Benefits by graeme on Monday November 26, 2018 @09:21AM (#18533498)
Oh that's just how I think haha. Hadn't even noticed. What is it, breaking it down to steps?
Re:Breathing Through the Nose May Offer Unique Brain Benefits by bitexploder on Sunday November 25, 2018 @12:51PM (#18527859)
I think the experience of it is subjective based how you perceive fight/flight (anxiety). What we know is this pushes some buttons in the nervous system, and I think how we perceive that can vary a lot, but the objective result is similar for a lot of people. What is cool about this technique is you can’t cheat it. It will cause the reactions due to the way breathing works in the body and the automatic responses wired to that.