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Re:Leaving Apple and Google: more devices now supported by Wowfunhappy on Saturday November 24, 2018 @06:18PM (#18524463)
I'm generally inclined to believe that companies--and people--aren't lying outright, unless there's evidence to the contrary. Apple seems to be making a real, concerted, and good faith effort in the realm of data privacy. This effort ought to be recognized.

Would it be _better_ if all Apple software was fully open source and could be independently audited by anyone? Yes. Does that invalidate everything else? No.

Also, Wireshark is a good way to monitor what data your phone is sending to what servers, even if it's incredibly imperfect.

Re:Leaving Apple and Google: more devices now supported by jakobegger on Sunday November 25, 2018 @03:51AM (#18526043)
With ubiquitous use of TLS and the advent of certificate pinning Wireshark is becoming less and less useful. Even if you convince the phone to accept your man-in-the-middle certificate with a provisioning profile, there's no way to proof that it sends the same data as if it got the real certificate.
Re:Leaving Apple and Google: more devices now supported by Wowfunhappy on Monday November 26, 2018 @04:26PM (#18536936)
If iOS was changing the data it sent out depending on which root certificates were installed, that would be a huge scandal, as I cannot imagine _any_ non-malicious reason to do that.

That's not proof of anything, but again, at some point I feel you have to assume good faith. Apple does not have a history of doing stuff like this.

Re:Leaving Apple and Google: more devices now supported by dcbadacd on Monday November 26, 2018 @09:30PM (#18538828)
Exactly, you're assuming good faith. Instead it should be proven good faith.