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Re:Leaving Apple and Google: more devices now supported by choward on Saturday November 24, 2018 @01:26PM (#18523298)
> Source?

Exactly. Without source code you have no idea what they're doing. All you know it's what they say they are doing. Two completely different things.

Re:Leaving Apple and Google: more devices now supported by chongli on Saturday November 24, 2018 @02:09PM (#18523491)
No, you know a lot more than that. Apple is a public company. Take a look at their quarterly reports. Note the distinctive lack of dependence on ad revenue. This alone sets them apart from Facebook and Google.

Apple makes money by selling stuff to people, not selling people to advertisers.

Re:Leaving Apple and Google: more devices now supported by willstrafach on Saturday November 24, 2018 @02:07PM (#18523480)
Untrue. You can sniff outgoing connections and reverse engineer whatever you’d like (I sure have and am glad to have a full understanding of everything going out).
Re:Leaving Apple and Google: more devices now supported by dcbadacd on Saturday November 24, 2018 @06:04PM (#18524410)
Time is another dimension here, you'd have to indefinitely monitor the device to make sure there's nothing sent out. There's also the possibility of stenography and remote-activation.

> (I sure have and am glad to have a full understanding of everything going out).

That's impossible.

Re:Leaving Apple and Google: more devices now supported by willstrafach on Sunday November 25, 2018 @02:57AM (#18525882)
There is a finite amount of code on the system. That code would also include any functions related to stenography or remote activation and could be easily called out. However, do not exist in iOS. Anything can happen in the future, and those future versions can also be examined to find out if any such functionality was added.
Re:Leaving Apple and Google: more devices now supported by dcbadacd on Monday November 26, 2018 @09:29PM (#18538824)
You're delusional if you think you can audit every line of code running on your iPhone. That'd be something newsworthy.
Re:Leaving Apple and Google: more devices now supported by willstrafach on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @09:08AM (#18542345)
Your comment contains an insult with no additional substance to back up the claim.
Re:Leaving Apple and Google: more devices now supported by dcbadacd on Tuesday November 27, 2018 @11:25AM (#18543664)
The first part of my sentence only applies if you think you can/have audit(ed) every line of code running on your iOS device. If anything you're the one saying it can be done by you without any substance.
Re:Leaving Apple and Google: more devices now supported by willstrafach on Wednesday November 28, 2018 @12:29AM (#18549496)
> There is a finite amount of code on the system. That code would also include any functions related to stenography or remote activation and could be easily called out.

Hint: You do not need to manually, personally, audit every single line of code to discover the use of such functionality.

Re:Leaving Apple and Google: more devices now supported by tinus_hn on Sunday November 25, 2018 @07:28AM (#18526591)
That isn’t an argument for claiming the opposite.