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Re:The human costs of Black Friday, explained by a former Am... by umanwizard on Friday November 23, 2018 @02:26PM (#18518398)
How is that Amazon’s fault or problem?

Is your issue with Amazon, or with the system of capitalism in general? If the latter, why are people criticizing Amazon specifically?

Re:The human costs of Black Friday, explained by a former Am... by n4r9 on Friday November 23, 2018 @02:49PM (#18518521)
It's a general criticism of the system. Highlighting Amazon's particular behaviour is useful as a demonstration of how/where the system fails, and may produce short term wins if it incentivises amazon to stop being inhumane.
Re:The human costs of Black Friday, explained by a former Am... by Alex63 on Friday November 23, 2018 @03:12PM (#18518635)
I sincerely don't want to oversimplify your argument, but it seems like the logical end-point would be a global socialist/communist society. Is that your desired/intended outcome?
Re:The human costs of Black Friday, explained by a former Am... by ABCLAW on Friday November 23, 2018 @04:21PM (#18518977)
What...?

You get a more functional labour economy by having labour able to access better opportunities. If there's a killer sales agent that won't apply for my sales position because Amazon is dunking him with 14 hour days repeatedly, no one benefits besides Amazon.

Re:The human costs of Black Friday, explained by a former Am... by Alex63 on Friday November 23, 2018 @04:34PM (#18519031)
I agree, and I would not want to see regulation or laws that prevent labour access to other opportunities. But asking people to work overtime for specific reasons/period doesn't prevent them from looking for other opportunities. That seems like a straw man.
Re:The human costs of Black Friday, explained by a former Am... by n4r9 on Friday November 23, 2018 @03:35PM (#18518759)
That's a deceptively complex question. I don't necessarily agree that that's the logical endpoint to my reasoning: it might be that we have to continue to appeal to basic human greed/power drives - in a regulated way - in order to progress and develop as a species. It might be that a global socialist society can't do that. I'm not sure. I just think that right now, many developed countries could certainly do with reinforcement of labour rights.

To answer from another perspective, a society resembling something like socialism or anarchism is what I personally would prefer to live in. I have doubts about whether we can move towards that from the current situation or whether it's workable, full stop. But it sure would be nice.