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Re:Finland freezes arms export permits to Saudi Arabia and U... by mrweasel on Friday November 23, 2018 @08:19AM (#18516209)
Germany and Norway already did this in October and earlier this month. Denmark announced the same yesterday.

Honestly it doesn't matter much if the US doesn't do the same.

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Re:Finland freezes arms export permits to Saudi Arabia and U... by GordonS on Friday November 23, 2018 @08:41AM (#18516332)
Hopefully if more nations stop selling to Saudi it will put a bigger spotlight on US arms sales - kind of shaming them into stopping.
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Re:Finland freezes arms export permits to Saudi Arabia and U... by PavlovsCat on Friday November 23, 2018 @10:16AM (#18516857)
It may not matter to the US, it may not matter much to the victims of those weapons, but it matters for citizens of those countries not selling weapons. Though "freezing" them doesn't say much if you then increase the volume afterwards for a while, but generally speaking, not taking part in something bad is a good in and of itself.
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Re:Finland freezes arms export permits to Saudi Arabia and U... by vinay427 on Friday November 23, 2018 @08:43AM (#18516346)
> The US is controlled by its greatest ally

I understand what you're trying to say, but this is fundamentally backwards. The US makes a conscious decision out of supposed self-interest to align itself with a state despite its history of instigating and spreading conflicts. It is not "controlled" by anyone. Saying so would imply that the US is somehow less responsible for continuing to support the state, and that the state somehow has ultimate control over US policy, neither of which are true.

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Re:Finland freezes arms export permits to Saudi Arabia and U... by 4ad on Friday November 23, 2018 @09:25AM (#18516562)
Who is this mythical "greatest ally" you speak about?
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Re:Finland freezes arms export permits to Saudi Arabia and U... by will4274 on Friday November 23, 2018 @11:46AM (#18517467)
Typically, such conspiracy minded people are referring to Israel, which supports Saudi Arabia as an opposing power to Iran. There is a long history of conspiracy theories of secret Israeli/Mossad control of the US government.
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Re:Finland freezes arms export permits to Saudi Arabia and U... by ryanlol on Friday November 23, 2018 @12:32PM (#18517779)
Is that really a conspiracy theory then? Israel unquestionably wields disproportionate lobbying power in the US.
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Re:Finland freezes arms export permits to Saudi Arabia and U... by CapitalistCartr on Friday November 23, 2018 @09:35AM (#18516614)
He means Saudi Arabia; how we suck up to them because of their oil regardless of how much they do detrimental to us.
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Re:Finland freezes arms export permits to Saudi Arabia and U... by 4ad on Friday November 23, 2018 @09:40AM (#18516637)
I'd like to hear him explain how does Saudi Arabia plant politicians and judges in the US...
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Re:Finland freezes arms export permits to Saudi Arabia and U... by CapitalistCartr on Friday November 23, 2018 @10:31AM (#18516951)
They don't; they spend decent money on marketing to public opinion, lobbying, and buying members of The Congress.
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Re:Finland freezes arms export permits to Saudi Arabia and U... by Bootvis on Friday November 23, 2018 @08:56AM (#18516405)
Downvoted, this kind of conspiracy thinking needs to be backed up by facts or at least some somewhat credible sources.
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Re:Finland freezes arms export permits to Saudi Arabia and U... by fsloth on Friday November 23, 2018 @09:20AM (#18516524)
Saudis have been swimming in money and investing heavily for decades. You don't need a conspiracy theory. Ownership is enough to create political power.

The "plant" statement to which you replied is framed like a general conspiracy rumour, and would benefit from references to credible sources, though.

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Re:Finland freezes arms export permits to Saudi Arabia and U... by ryanlol on Friday November 23, 2018 @09:55AM (#18516726)
Replace "greatest ally" with "military-industrial complex", do you still need sources?
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Re:Finland freezes arms export permits to Saudi Arabia and U... by Bootvis on Friday November 23, 2018 @10:57AM (#18517132)
I’d like evidence or sources for the statement that Saudi Arabia spending money and being wealthy would lead to corrupt officials (plants) in the USA. To me it sounds like an extraordinary claim.
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Re:Finland freezes arms export permits to Saudi Arabia and U... by jvvlimme on Friday November 23, 2018 @09:36AM (#18516622)
https://www.amazon.com/Proof-Collusion-Trump-Betrayed-Americ...

No affiliation.

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Re:Finland freezes arms export permits to Saudi Arabia and U... by DarkManZero on Friday November 23, 2018 @08:29AM (#18516260)
I totally agree with you.
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