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Re:Amp – A complete text editor for the terminal by edanm on Thursday November 22, 2018 @08:38AM (#18509902)
That's half-right, I think. The question is, when using a command like "change until" or "change forward", i.e. 'ct' or 'cf', what will the effect be?

In the case of 'ct', you're going to delete up until the letter, whereas in 'cf', it will include the letter you're targetting.

Re:Amp – A complete text editor for the terminal by yakshaving_jgt on Thursday November 22, 2018 @09:24AM (#18510125)
It's definitely exactly right, but I tried to word it in a way which didn't make me look like a know-it-all.

> The question is, when using a command like "change until" or "change forward", i.e. 'ct' or 'cf', what will the effect be?

Is this a question? You answered it accurately. The behaviour is consistent here too, though the mnemonics people often use don't always make total sense.

Re:Amp – A complete text editor for the terminal by jolmg on Thursday November 22, 2018 @02:01PM (#18511814)
> "change forward" [...] 'cf'

"change find", you mean.

Re:Amp – A complete text editor for the terminal by edanm on Thursday November 22, 2018 @02:20PM (#18511927)
Interesting! I'd always thought of it as "f"orward.

Is there any official reference to it standing for find? Googling has found a few unofficial references, but help doesn't appear to say either way.

Re:Amp – A complete text editor for the terminal by jolmg on Thursday November 22, 2018 @03:44PM (#18512432)
In vim's usr_03.txt manual file, it says:

> One of the most useful movement commands is the single-character search command. The command "fx" searches forward in the line for the single character x. Hint: "f" stands for "Find".

That seems official.