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Re:Texas Is About to Create OPEC’s Worst Nightmare by toomuchtodo on Wednesday November 21, 2018 @04:47PM (#18506375)
We have spent a non-insignificant amount on the Fifth Fleet (25 navy vessels) to ensure the stable supply of middle eastern oil onto energy markets. That seems to be of substantial incentive to mitigate our need for oil to drive our economy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Fifth_Fleet

> Well, even a blind pig finds an acorn once in awhile. While working on a recent piece on how to cut $1 trillion from the $7-trillion-plus U.S. defense budget over the coming decade, I stumbled upon a provocative analysis by Roger Stern, an economic geographer at Princeton University. He says the U.S. has “mis-allocated” — others might say “wasted” — $8 trillion since 1976 protecting the oil flow from the Persian Gulf that fuels much of the global economy. Especially since in 2010, when the U.S. was the destination of less than 10 percent of the oil flowing out of the Gulf.

> The U.S. has insisted, since the days of the Carter Administration, that the oil flowing out of the Persian Gulf is a vital national-security interest of the U.S. Beyond that, Presidents and the Pentagon have said, the narrow Strait of Hormuz is a vulnerable bottleneck for shipping headed out of the Gulf. Any troublemaker — especially Iran — could bring the U.S. and world economies to their collective knees by shutting it down by sinking a couple of tankers as they pass through. Consequently, the U.S. has poured tons of money into the region since then, including three wars. It has bulked up its military forces in the neighborhood — including the U.S. Navy’s 5th Fleet, headquarters in Bahrain, smack dab in the middle of the gulf — to keep the oil flowing.

http://nation.time.com/2011/04/24/a-question-for-the-obama-a... (Have we wasted $8 trillion defending the Persian Gulf from a non-existent threat?)

Re:Texas Is About to Create OPEC’s Worst Nightmare by mc32 on Wednesday November 21, 2018 @05:16PM (#18506543)
Much of keeping gulf oil flowing is to keep the European and east Asian economies stable —they are petroleum poor. We get most of out foreign petros from Canada, Vz and Mx.

No doubt Trump would love to recall rhe fleet, if possible, but it’s not. Unless he’d like to see chaos in the world economy.

Re:Texas Is About to Create OPEC’s Worst Nightmare by pas on Thursday November 22, 2018 @04:13PM (#18512603)
How does the presence of the 5th Fleet ... make any difference? Are they on active patrol duty? How does this work?
Re:Texas Is About to Create OPEC’s Worst Nightmare by cronix on Wednesday November 21, 2018 @05:35PM (#18506652)
> Unless he’d like to see chaos in the world economy.

Like trade wars usually tend to cause?

Re:Texas Is About to Create OPEC’s Worst Nightmare by mc32 on Wednesday November 21, 2018 @05:44PM (#18506698)
Depends. Sometimes you have cause on your side. In this case we do know China does not play fair. Nothing weird about it except previous prezes always crossed their fingers, knocked on wood and hoped others would play fair just cuz. I’m actually pleased a president finally decided to call it for whst it is and do something about it and not just talk and take token steps for publicity and then forget about it.