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Re:Ask HN: Have you ever regretted working on a product? by umichguy on Wednesday November 21, 2018 @07:34AM (#18502183)
Not many non-UK (and even UK) people realize that the City of London is actually a separate entity from London. It has it's own administration, police force etc.
Re:Ask HN: Have you ever regretted working on a product? by dmurray on Wednesday November 21, 2018 @08:49AM (#18502616)
This seems like it should be an interesting curiosity to foreigners but is actually completely mundane to anyone from the US, where everything larger than a village is its own "city" with its own municipal government and - of course - at least one police force.
Re:Ask HN: Have you ever regretted working on a product? by apexalpha on Wednesday November 21, 2018 @09:24AM (#18502847)
I don't know I think it'd be pretty interesting to find out that Wall Street is not actually part of NYC but has it's own police, government etc... purely for benefit of the banks.
Re:Ask HN: Have you ever regretted working on a product? by portent on Wednesday November 21, 2018 @11:01AM (#18503599)
You might then be interested to know that the Federal Reserve bank has its own dedicated police force/

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Reserve_Police

Re:Ask HN: Have you ever regretted working on a product? by dasil003 on Wednesday November 21, 2018 @10:00AM (#18503143)
You’re not getting it. “The City of London” is not what you think of as London. It’s a tiny square mile that is essentially sovereign and outside national law. Corporations are allowed to vote there and there are more corporations than people. It’s sort of like if you had Switzerland embedded in Manhattan.
Re:Ask HN: Have you ever regretted working on a product? by dmurray on Wednesday November 21, 2018 @10:35AM (#18503419)
I've been to the City of London many times (though I worked outside it, in Mayfair).

It's really not "essentially sovereign" or "outside national law" as you might argue of an embassy or a military base or even, say, the Channel Islands. People and businesses there are subject to all the laws of the land. Financial firms there are regulated by the FCA, which is based outside the City and appointed by the Treasury, definitely not by the City of London Corporation.

Prestigious financial firms have offices in the City because everyone else does, not because there's some legal or regulatory benefit from being incorporated there - again, very different from those who choose other Crown jurisdictions like Jersey or IOM or the Caymans.

Re:Ask HN: Have you ever regretted working on a product? by dasil003 on Wednesday November 21, 2018 @11:56AM (#18504033)
You're right, that was more of a knee-jerk reaction to a statement that it's like regular city governments in the US. The truth is more subtle: the UK benefits from The City's position as a world financial centre, and so parliament is incentivized to give The City a large degree of independence when it comes to setting financial regulation. By keeping them at arm's length they can have their cake and eat it too by setting strict tax rules for the entire country, but leaving loopholes to allow all the international money to flow in.
Re:Ask HN: Have you ever regretted working on a product? by dmurray on Wednesday November 21, 2018 @12:44PM (#18504472)
You can replace "The City" by "the financial sector" here. Once again, the historical curiosity that the City of London has its own local government has nothing to do with the UK's approach to financial regulation. Barclays, Citigroup, and HSBC - all headquartered 3 miles to the east in Canary Wharf, like the FCA itself, instead of in the City - get just the same regulatory benefits and disadvantages as Lloyds or NatWest.
Re:Ask HN: Have you ever regretted working on a product? by adambyrtek on Wednesday November 21, 2018 @11:35AM (#18503852)
> essentially sovereign and outside national law

This is definitely not true. Maybe you confused it with Isle of Man or Channel Islands, which are crown dependencies with certain autonomy, often accused to be British tax havens.

Re:Ask HN: Have you ever regretted working on a product? by dasil003 on Wednesday November 21, 2018 @11:57AM (#18504052)
Not literally true, you are right; but The City is also accused of being a tax haven.
Re:Ask HN: Have you ever regretted working on a product? by C1sc0cat on Wednesday November 21, 2018 @12:48PM (#18504501)
If I had stayed working for a company that was in the city I was interested in standing for election :-)

yes I am a wonk

Re:Ask HN: Have you ever regretted working on a product? by twic on Thursday November 22, 2018 @08:05AM (#18509744)
I was an elector for a company in the City once. But i quit before i had a chance to vote in an election!
Re:Ask HN: Have you ever regretted working on a product? by TheOtherHobbes on Wednesday November 21, 2018 @09:29AM (#18502875)
Most cities don't have their own unelected delegate in Parliament to represent their interests.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_Remembrancer

Re:Ask HN: Have you ever regretted working on a product? by billatq on Wednesday November 21, 2018 @02:22PM (#18505258)
That's why there's the Met police vs the City of London police, no? (I blame a wikipedia dive into policing in the UK for knowing that piece of trivia)