Re:C.I.A. Concludes That Saudi Crown Prince Ordered Khashogg...
by tehwebguy on Friday November 16, 2018 @11:16PM
(#18473915)
Wait so we might keep Gulen, infuriate Erdoğan and get the audio publicly released?
Talk about win-win-win!
Re:C.I.A. Concludes That Saudi Crown Prince Ordered Khashogg...
by thaumasiotes on Saturday November 17, 2018 @02:20AM
(#18474435)
How is keeping Gulen a win?
Re:C.I.A. Concludes That Saudi Crown Prince Ordered Khashogg...
by onetimemanytime on Friday November 16, 2018 @11:43PM
(#18473998)
Doesn't Gulen have a right to challenge this in US Courts? Any lawyers here...does he have a chance in courts? The process in Turkey surely seems political.
Re:C.I.A. Concludes That Saudi Crown Prince Ordered Khashogg...
by mengibar10 on Saturday November 17, 2018 @12:04AM
(#18474047)
According to mutual agreement between Turkey and US, US is actually obliged to return him Turkey. As far as I understand from what I read Erdogan does not want him back to Turkey but extradited to a 3rd country, not sure why. Probably he won't be able to run his network as efficiently as he can from say South Africa.
Re:C.I.A. Concludes That Saudi Crown Prince Ordered Khashogg...
by onetimemanytime on Saturday November 17, 2018 @12:37AM
(#18474144)
Strange, if true. AFAIK, all agreements are subject to federal court review, he has right since he's in USA /has Green card.
If all fails, he has the right to ask for political asylum. A judge would grant him one in light of what's going on in Turkey with tens of thousands rounded up overnight and jailed. Will he get a fair trial in Turkey? We pretty much know the answer
Re:C.I.A. Concludes That Saudi Crown Prince Ordered Khashogg...
by PeterMikhailov on Saturday November 17, 2018 @02:10PM
(#18476880)
Not sure where you're getting that... Erdogan has been demanding that Gulen be extradited directly to Turkey since at least 2016, and I'm sure earlier.
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/if-trump-sacrifices-fe...
Erdoğan wants him, but in return for what? Maybe preventing the audio of the killing ending up on YouTube (or otherwise made public). If the CIA is saying MBS ordered the killing, the effect is maybe the same.
Also: why does the CIA care what happens to Gulen?