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Re:Orangutans are the only great apes besides humans to ‘tal... by nobrains on Friday November 16, 2018 @03:00AM (#18467280)
Could we let other apes and animals evolve over millions of years under our supervision and eye?

If so, could a more advance species have done the same with us and is now observing us from a distance?

Re:Orangutans are the only great apes besides humans to ‘tal... by perlgeek on Friday November 16, 2018 @05:04AM (#18467732)
> Could we let other apes and animals evolve over millions of years under our supervision and eye?

I think we must assume we cannot. There hasn't been any major civilization that has been around for more than a few hundred or thousands of years.

If we construct such a project in a way that it has a 0.01% chance to crumble in a single year (which is why lower than anything our society can achieve right now), there's about a 10% chance it fails within 10k years, a 63% chance it fails in 100k years, and a 99.995% chance it fails within a million years.

Re:Orangutans are the only great apes besides humans to ‘tal... by pawelk on Friday November 16, 2018 @06:10AM (#18467961)
Given enough advancements in computer science we could simulate millions years of apes evolution within a span of days or hours and observe the results. Which is the basis of the argument for simulation hypothesis [1]

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulation_hypothesis

Re:Orangutans are the only great apes besides humans to ‘tal... by ars on Friday November 16, 2018 @04:20AM (#18467585)
That's basically the premise of the Uplift series by David Brin.
Re:Orangutans are the only great apes besides humans to ‘tal... by clort on Friday November 16, 2018 @05:17AM (#18467774)
The premise of that series is that except for the original species, there had always been intervention to uplift not just observation. Humans had been a bit of a surprise because they had no apparent uplifters. IIRC the general viewpoint was that self-evolution in this way was just not possible so there must have been some kind of deception involved.
Re:Orangutans are the only great apes besides humans to ‘tal... by allrightyeo on Friday November 16, 2018 @03:39AM (#18467419)
isn't that the main loop hole of who was born first? chicken or the egg?
Re:Orangutans are the only great apes besides humans to ‘tal... by jobigoud on Friday November 16, 2018 @05:02AM (#18467724)
Egg was first by millions of years.
Re:Orangutans are the only great apes besides humans to ‘tal... by AstralStorm on Friday November 16, 2018 @12:13PM (#18470042)
Do you mean "cell" which is neither egg (which is a specific specialized kind of a cell - reproductive) nor chicken?
Re:Orangutans are the only great apes besides humans to ‘tal... by ginsu on Friday November 16, 2018 @03:46PM (#18471825)
Well, the cellular specialization arose long before amphibians emerged from bodies of water, and amphibians laid eggs long before birds evolved, eventually branching out into any species of chicken.