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Re:Companies struggling to fill jobs 'should try paying more... by AtlasBarfed on Thursday November 15, 2018 @08:58AM (#18459233)
It's almost like the profession of economics is beholden to a class of rich industrialists that will restrict their careers, exposure, and success if one were to dare repeat obvious, basic facts about increasing pay of workers.
Re:Companies struggling to fill jobs 'should try paying more... by clarkmoody on Thursday November 15, 2018 @11:17AM (#18460452)
A large proportion of US economists are employed by the Fed and government agencies. Many others in academia do government-sponsored research. Not surprisingly, they won't advance in their careers if they advocate for fewer government interventions in the market.
Re:Companies struggling to fill jobs 'should try paying more... by snackbugs on Thursday November 15, 2018 @12:13PM (#18461099)
To take this critique to an even lower order of problems, economics as a field is strictly centered on capitalism and the base assumption that markets are the only efficient distribution of resources. By this nature professionals researching economics will be captured by corporate interests at every level.
Re:Companies struggling to fill jobs 'should try paying more... by CryptoPunk on Thursday November 15, 2018 @03:51PM (#18463172)
Economics makes no axiomatic assumptions favoring market-based economies. The conclusion that free markets work better is empirically supported.

It also counter the interests of powerful special interest groups, which has placed economists outside of the political consensus on numerous issues.

We're not living in some free market paradise. Our economy is highly controlled from the top down, with major government interventions limiting contracting and private property rights. Just to give one especially stark example, if you offer stock in your small business to the public, without going through an arduous registration process and getting approval from the securities regulator, you will be fined and potentially imprisoned.

Re:Companies struggling to fill jobs 'should try paying more... by snackbugs on Thursday November 15, 2018 @04:59PM (#18463842)
>The conclusion that free markets work better is empirically supported

Better for whom?

Re:Companies struggling to fill jobs 'should try paying more... by CryptoPunk on Thursday November 15, 2018 @05:03PM (#18463880)
For everyone. Efficient markets raise per capita productivity, which raises quality of life for the vast majority of the population.

The most problematic parts of the economy, like housing, are that way due to govermment intervention. In the case of housing, zoning restrictions create artificial scarcity in the most productive economic regions, leading to rising rent, which limits economic opportunity and contributes to greater income inequality.

Re:Companies struggling to fill jobs 'should try paying more... by snackbugs on Thursday November 15, 2018 @05:11PM (#18463950)
>For everyone. Efficient markets raise per capita productivity, which raises quality of life for the vast majority of the population.

The majority of the US can't financially bear an emergency $1000 expense without going into debt, joblessness, or homelessness.

Productivity isn't connected positively individual quality of life, otherwise this wouldn't be the case.

A free market depends on an entire class of people maintained in poverty. That is not efficient except for a minor plurality.

As I said in your parent comment, the base assumptions that markets efficiently distribute resources is a lie.

Re:Companies struggling to fill jobs 'should try paying more... by CryptoPunk on Thursday November 15, 2018 @07:01PM (#18464762)
Well the US has a generous social safety net, which discourages private savings. Healthcare is also vastly over-priced due to govermment intervention.

The number of hospital administrators increased 3,200% between 1975 and 2010, compared to a 150% increase in physicians, and this increasing inefficiency is due to an increasing number of regulations:

https://www.athenahealth.com/insight/expert-forum-rise-and-r...

>>Productivity isn't connected positively individual quality of life, otherwise this wouldn't be the case.

Quality of life is vastly better in high-productivity countries than low-productivity ones. Only someone who has been totally sheltered from the extreme poverty characteristic of many countries of the world could even make a comment as detached from reality as yours.

>>A free market depends on an entire class of people maintained in poverty. That is not efficient except for a minor plurality.

That's demonstrably false. The global poverty rate has been decreasing at the fastest in history over the last 30 years, concurrent with the spread of marker institutions. The rate of extreme poverty has halved in the last 20 years.

Re:Companies struggling to fill jobs 'should try paying more... by snackbugs on Thursday November 15, 2018 @08:56PM (#18465596)
Whatever you have to tell yourself to keep believing what you do.
Re:Companies struggling to fill jobs 'should try paying more... by CryptoPunk on Friday November 16, 2018 @12:40AM (#18466693)
I'm open to seeing what evidence you have that I'm wrong. If you think you can understand economics without challenging and re-challenging your own beliefs, and contending with and considering opposing viewpoints, you're greatly under-estimating its complexity.