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Re:Study finds reducing carbs and replacing with fats leads ... by toomuchtodo on Thursday November 15, 2018 @02:01AM (#18457439)
I corrected that part of my comment ("with the majority of your calories coming from fat macros"). Regarding "If you don't get carbs, your body breaks muscle tissue to produce it", this is a myth (as long as you are consuming an adequate amount of protein; strength training is helpful if able) [1]. Your body will produce ketone/ketone bodies (an adequate substitute for bodily organs demanding glucose) once your glucose stores are exhausted, and will continue to do so as long as you restrict ingestion of carbohydrates and don't run out of body fat.

[1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1373635/

> More recently, Willi et al. examined the efficacy and metabolic impact of a VLCARB in the treatment of morbidly obese adolescents [4]. Six adolescents weighing an average of 147.8 kg consumed the VLCARB (25 g of carbohydrate/day) for 8 weeks. The results indicated that the weight loss with VLCARB is rapid, consistent, and almost exclusively from body fat stores. Changes in lean body mass, as estimated from DEXA and urinary creatinine, were not significant over the term of treatment. Bioelectrical impedance measurements reflected a greater loss of lean body mass, but changes in total body fluid and electrolyte content, as a result of dietary ketosis, may complicate these measurements.

> Although more long-term studies are needed before a firm conclusion can be drawn, it appears, from most literature studied, that a VLCARB is, if anything, protective against muscle protein catabolism during energy restriction, provided that it contains adequate amounts of protein.

Re:Study finds reducing carbs and replacing with fats leads ... by nikolay on Thursday November 15, 2018 @02:06AM (#18457455)
You can't eat protein on a fast. Protein also increases blood sugar, and too much of it is detrimental in many ways and growth factors such as IGF-1 being just one.
Re:Study finds reducing carbs and replacing with fats leads ... by toomuchtodo on Thursday November 15, 2018 @02:11AM (#18457475)
You're moving the goal posts. We're not talking about a fast, we're talking about a very low carbohydrate diet. The paper I reference demonstrates that a carbohydrate restriction does not incur muscular catabolism when protein is a component of your low carbohydrate diet (which should primarily be fats to prevent excessive protein from kicking you out of ketosis).
Re:Study finds reducing carbs and replacing with fats leads ... by nikolay on Thursday November 15, 2018 @04:00AM (#18457873)
Not really as low-carb diets are done mostly by people who do IF. Not all carbs are not evil! We've evolved to digest milk in adulthood and take advantage of slow carbs. The bad carbs are the refined ones - we haven't had much of these in the past. Low-carb diets are especially unsuited for women. If you look at people who lived healthy and long lives, they weren't gulping on coconut oil and refined MCT oils. Anyway, I don't think empty sugar calories are much different than empty fat calories. Carbs bring more nutrients than fats like coconut, for example. Nobody also cares on the microbiota effect of fat overload! Again, if you have epilepsy or schizophrenia, okay, no doubt, keto is great as therapy, but is it great for just anybody and does it lead to a long healthy life? There are no data to support such a statement! On the contrary, all anecdotal data points that moderation is the best strategy. Oh, wait - 6 meals a day is also a modern brainfart - people used to eat 1-2 times a day with no snacking! So, enough fad diets with no scientific proof behind them! The only thing that makes sense today is backed by research - maintain mitochondrial QC, cycle mito fusion with fission - all chronic diseases pretty much are caused by dysfunctional mitochondria, and I don't think keto supports that strategy well!
Re:Study finds reducing carbs and replacing with fats leads ... by thrower123 on Thursday November 15, 2018 @11:50AM (#18460838)
> as low-carb diets are done mostly by people who do IF

What? Maybe, but I think citation is needed there. The most widely popular keto diet, Atkins, doesn't say a thing about fasting - when you boil it down, and don't do any of the stupid carb-replacement recipe trickery that a lot of people do, Atkins equates to: take your normal meal with meat, starch, and vegetable, and stop making the starch, eat a little more vegetable if you want. Voila, there goes 500-1000 calories a day, more if you're eating starchy/sugary snacks. And you won't be hungry between meals. It's not rocket science.

Re:Study finds reducing carbs and replacing with fats leads ... by nonbel on Thursday November 15, 2018 @10:50PM (#18466232)
I'd say what the parent refers to as intermittent fasting is just feeling less hungry...
Re:Study finds reducing carbs and replacing with fats leads ... by nikolay on Friday November 16, 2018 @12:02AM (#18466559)
Yes, the more frequently you eat, the faster your metabolism gets, and you get hungry faster. I'm not sure why people came up with the nonsense that faster metabolism is better as since when accelerating aging is desired? Well, muscle mass also ups basal metabolic rate, but that's a bit different mechanism.