Ask HN: What's the largest amount of bad code you have ever seen work?

Re:Ask HN: What's the largest amount of bad code you have ev... by api on Wednesday November 14, 2018 @06:34PM (#18455312)

TDD is yet another in a long line of "methodologies" that don't work. Tests are not a bad thing of course. The problem comes when you turn testing into an ideology and try to use it as a magic fix for all your problems. Same goes for "agile," etc.

Programming is a craft. Good programmers write good code. Bad programmers write bad code. No methodology will make bad programmers write good code, but bureaucratic bullshit can and will prevent good programmers from working at their best. The only way to improve the output of a bad programmer is to mentor them and let them gain experience.

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Re:Ask HN: What's the largest amount of bad code you have ev... by antonvs on Thursday November 15, 2018 @07:52AM (#18458836)

The reality of working in teams at most companies is that there are going to be mediocre programmers, and even bad programmers, on the team. Many of the practices you refer to as bureaucratic bullshit are actually designed to protect programmers from the mistakes of other programmers.

Of course, this does require that the process itself has been set up with care, thought, and understanding of what's being achieved.

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