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Re:Reasons to Fear Another ‘Great War’ by tomohawk on Monday November 12, 2018 @08:06PM (#18437504)
I'm not aware of Israel making it a matter of national policy to annihilate Iran or any other country. However, that is Iran's stated policy, and what they've said they'll do when they get nukes.

https://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2018/04/21/Iranian-g...

Iran is training proxies in Syria, Lebanon, and Palestine to attack Israel. And that's what they're doing. They just launched a missile barrage, the largest ever, at Israel.

It seems that Israel is just defending its existence.

Re:Reasons to Fear Another ‘Great War’ by raprp on Monday November 12, 2018 @08:45PM (#18437722)
Hamas is bombing Israel, not the Syrian Army.

Hamas chose Saudi Arabia's and Qatar's side on the Syrian conflict and that lead to Assad breaking relations with them.

Syria took it as a betrayal so I doubt they would do anything to help Hamas.

Israel is not bombing Syria to defend itself. Syria never had and nor will have the capability to do anything to Israel.

The reason Israel have been bombing Syria is the same reason Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Turkey, USA, UK, France, Australia and the rest of the coalition are doing it too: regime change.

They want to replace Assad with a puppet, like Hariri in Lebanon, so they can all push their own agendas in the region.

And on the other side Russia, Iran and Hezbollah jumped in Assad's rescue to counter that move.

They are ALL pushing their own interests at the expense of Syrian lives so please drop this outrageous "defending itself" narrative and admit all actors of both sides are war criminals with blood on their hands.

Re:Reasons to Fear Another ‘Great War’ by sxyuan on Monday November 12, 2018 @10:48PM (#18438416)
> Israel is not bombing Syria to defend itself. Syria never had and nor will have the capability to do anything to Israel.

You're forgetting about the Six-Day War [1] and the Yom Kippur War [2]. Yes, there are controversies around those too, and Israel came out on top in the end - but let's not pretend that Israel the modern nation-state hasn't been on guard against being obliterated by its neighbors since Day 1.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six-Day_War

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yom_Kippur_War

Re:Reasons to Fear Another ‘Great War’ by raprp on Tuesday November 13, 2018 @03:30AM (#18439533)
Nobody denied those conflicts and the need of Israel to defend itself.

But sometime seems that only Israel has the right to defend itself, even when its not on the defense but actively bombing countries with far inferior armies / allies and they have to just accept being bombed because of events 50 years ago.

Can Iraq or Syria use the recent invasions as excuse to do whatever they want for the next 50 years too?

The concept of preemptive war has always been an excuse to actually start wars.

Re:Reasons to Fear Another ‘Great War’ by PavlovsCat on Tuesday November 13, 2018 @06:24AM (#18440189)
> You're forgetting about the Six-Day War [1] and the Yom Kippur War [2].

You using something to deflect from something else doesn't mean anyone else isn't aware of the thing you use to deflect.

Re:Reasons to Fear Another ‘Great War’ by senorjazz on Tuesday November 13, 2018 @08:19AM (#18440697)
> [to annihilate Israel] However, that is Iran's stated policy

This is not strictly true. Words were twisted and misconstrued and reported falsely in western media of what was actually said (which I think was still reprehensible, but Iranian policy is not the annihilation of Israel)

> and what they've said they'll do when they get nukes.

Absolutely not true. For one, they would never state they are trying to build a nuclear weapon, two they know Iran would cease to exist on the map if they did.

Unless you are perhaps referring to just a random person stating as such, if so, you could can find many more examples of Israeli and US persons saying the same of Iran, but that does not make it policy of Israel and US

Re:Reasons to Fear Another ‘Great War’ by igivanov on Monday November 12, 2018 @09:44PM (#18438025)
What do you expect from a country that Israel has been demonizing for the last 20+ years calling for bombing it and spreading lies about its non-existent nuclear arms programs? A love poem?

>Iran is training proxies in Syria, Lebanon, and Palestine to attack Israel.

while Israel helps ISIS in Syria to destroy the country, bombed Lebanon, annexed the Golans and areas in the West Bank... you really shouldn't be digging up that dead high horse.

Re:Reasons to Fear Another ‘Great War’ by colordrops on Monday November 12, 2018 @08:16PM (#18437565)
> I'm not aware of Israel making it a matter of national policy to annihilate Iran

You jest. That's the centerpiece of their foreign policy.

Re:Reasons to Fear Another ‘Great War’ by GauntletWizard on Monday November 12, 2018 @08:21PM (#18437593)
Asking the world to dethrone and delegitimize a country - even without the context of Iran's posture towards them - is different from genocide, which is Iran's posture, yes.
Re:Reasons to Fear Another ‘Great War’ by colordrops on Monday November 12, 2018 @09:21PM (#18437907)
That is not Iran's posture.
Re:Reasons to Fear Another ‘Great War’ by baursak on Monday November 12, 2018 @09:49PM (#18438054)
That is nowhere near Iran's posture or policy.