Re:Surviving Jonestown
by ChuckMcM on Monday November 12, 2018 @12:20PM
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Got it. We are talking about different things.
In your example with Sam and Bob, I see two people who are in different groups and can have identical (or highly coherent) belief systems.
If you want to split Sam and Bob up so that they won't be friends any more and they will hate each other, you do that by twisting their beliefs.
First one might suggest that members of Sam's faith, while in the military, were kept from the riskest parts of combat because the military. Then you convince Bob that anyone who plays football is just asking for CTE and that any friend you have is going to turn into a raging monster one of these days, and then you convince Sam, that Bob and others in his religous sect are perverting American politics to keep people like Sam from achieving similar level of success. And you convince Bob that it is Sam "and people like him" who are responsible for the cost of getting a new car or the reason jobs have left the area.
The next thing you know, Sam and Bob hate each other.
My point is that this can be done by carefully setting up what Sam and Bob believe, regardless of what groups they belong to. There are examples all around us today of families that have gone from groups of like minded people to separate camps, lifelong friends that one can no longer talk to.
This is Propaganda, this is Brain Washing, this is the corruption of a group through alternative belief systems.
In your example with Sam and Bob, I see two people who are in different groups and can have identical (or highly coherent) belief systems.
If you want to split Sam and Bob up so that they won't be friends any more and they will hate each other, you do that by twisting their beliefs.
First one might suggest that members of Sam's faith, while in the military, were kept from the riskest parts of combat because the military. Then you convince Bob that anyone who plays football is just asking for CTE and that any friend you have is going to turn into a raging monster one of these days, and then you convince Sam, that Bob and others in his religous sect are perverting American politics to keep people like Sam from achieving similar level of success. And you convince Bob that it is Sam "and people like him" who are responsible for the cost of getting a new car or the reason jobs have left the area.
The next thing you know, Sam and Bob hate each other.
My point is that this can be done by carefully setting up what Sam and Bob believe, regardless of what groups they belong to. There are examples all around us today of families that have gone from groups of like minded people to separate camps, lifelong friends that one can no longer talk to.
This is Propaganda, this is Brain Washing, this is the corruption of a group through alternative belief systems.
And its the topic at hand, "Surviving Jonestown".