NH judge orders Amazon to give Echo recordings in murder case

Re:NH judge orders Amazon to give Echo recordings in murder ... by sgustard on Saturday November 10, 2018 @12:19PM (#18422255)

I don't know why people will happily carry a cell phone (which is a microphone attached to a transmitter, with location tracking to boot) but recoil at an Echo device in their home. Both are equally capable of surveillance, but the phone certainly more so as it's not limited to Wifi (which I could also monitor if I was worried about Echo sending a constant data stream).

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Re:NH judge orders Amazon to give Echo recordings in murder ... by rythie on Saturday November 10, 2018 @12:31PM (#18422335)

Apple lets me select which apps can access to both the microphone and the GPS. Of course you have to trust Apple, though they've made a big thing about privacy, as the biggest public company in the world, I don't think they'd risk lying about that.

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Re:NH judge orders Amazon to give Echo recordings in murder ... by hrktb on Saturday November 10, 2018 @12:37PM (#18422372)

Phones are accepted as common carrier devices, even if people don’t completely understand who gets access to the data, they know it’s been decently reviewed and “battle proven”.

The Echo is a completely new device from a company that has very few oversight and regulation, and laws and usages are not really up to date for these use cases.

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Re:NH judge orders Amazon to give Echo recordings in murder ... by tomc1985 on Saturday November 10, 2018 @02:53PM (#18423138)

Are you kidding? A secured cell phone (like a modern iphone) is a hell of a lot harder to turn into a bug than a quasi-smart device that needs the cloud for all its processing

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