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Re:NH judge orders Amazon to give Echo recordings in murder ... by walrus01 on Friday November 09, 2018 @11:19PM (#18419913)
And people looked at you like you were an absolute raving loon if you tried to explain the architecture of the ECHELON program, 15 years ago. Now who's laughing...

I encourage everyone who is not familiar with them to read all of James Bamford's books on the NSA. And Robert Baer's books on the CIA.

Re:NH judge orders Amazon to give Echo recordings in murder ... by Jaepa on Friday November 09, 2018 @11:41PM (#18419982)
> And people looked at you like you were an absolute raving loon if you tried to explain the architecture of the ECHELON program, 15 years ago. Now who's laughing...

I would imagine Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the UK, & the US.

Re:NH judge orders Amazon to give Echo recordings in murder ... by arminiusreturns on Saturday November 10, 2018 @12:20AM (#18420090)
You get it, but it's sad you get down votes instead of good discussion. Let's also not forget: John Kiriakou, Julian Assange, Edward Snowden, Thomas Drake, William Binney, Daniel Elsberg, James Risen, Ray McGovern, Sibel Edmonds, Michael Scheuer, and many more.

Collectively, they point to a much more insidious state of affairs than I think most people want to admit.

Re:NH judge orders Amazon to give Echo recordings in murder ... by zaroth on Friday November 09, 2018 @11:23PM (#18419924)
But why make the government pay for it, when users will go on Amazon.com and pay to install their very own personal cloud home listening devices all by themselves?!
Re:NH judge orders Amazon to give Echo recordings in murder ... by iknowstuff on Saturday November 10, 2018 @12:20AM (#18420089)
They're insignificant in all of this compared to smartphones.
Re:NH judge orders Amazon to give Echo recordings in murder ... by 14 on Saturday November 10, 2018 @12:44AM (#18420135)
This is what I was thinking as well. Slowly creep until they have to power to turn on a persons phone at will to look and listen.
Re:NH judge orders Amazon to give Echo recordings in murder ... by monotone666 on Saturday November 10, 2018 @01:47AM (#18420255)
I once drew the ire of a large private security company and could have sworn they had the ability to listen to my cell phone microphone