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Re:Yelp craters 30% as advertisers abandon the site by rchaud on Friday November 09, 2018 @02:26PM (#18417128)
I'm not the person you're replying to, but here goes:

It's not 2011 anymore, back when the mobile web was trash because companies maintained both a desktop site and a severly gimped "m.desktop.com" site. Back then you pretty much had to have apps if you wanted to capture the mobile market.

Today, we have mature Add to Home Screen capability, GPS support, push notifications, widespread support for CSS3 hardware acceleration, PWAs, offline capabilities and much more.

You can now make Uber and Lyft trips on the mobile web. That is a use case where I had previously thought I would always need to have the app installed.

So with that in mind, why would I even want to open the dumpster fire that is Google Play/App Store in 2018? If it's a new company I haven't heard of, I am sure as hell not about to open the app store and download > 50MB on my data plan to check you out.

Re:Yelp craters 30% as advertisers abandon the site by apl002 on Friday November 09, 2018 @03:03PM (#18417443)
you can add push notification from mobile web? I suppose i see the attempts for me to enable desktop notifications but ive never seen them on mobile web before.

Feels weird to applaud add to home screen but not want the app. Also im on wifi so often that i guess 50mb to download an app is a non issue for me.

I am biased because I build native apps vs web apps but ive always preferred a rich native experience and design vs the web. To each their own!

Re:Yelp craters 30% as advertisers abandon the site by donretag on Friday November 09, 2018 @06:24PM (#18418872)
No push notifications is an added bonus. I do not want notifications. None. Zero.
Re:Yelp craters 30% as advertisers abandon the site by rchaud on Friday November 09, 2018 @08:50PM (#18419484)
The problem is most companies are not interested in building rich native experiences. Amazon is a trillion dollar company and their mobile app is horrendous. They don't see it as a priority, it's just something that has to exist, like how companies have to write awful PR blog posts that nobody is reading.

For me, the "add to home screen" means the PWA launches in fullscreen without any browser chrome and that helps the experience a lot. My home screen gets a tiny bit more cluttered but that's an acceptable tradeoff.

Re:Yelp craters 30% as advertisers abandon the site by lucasverra on Friday November 09, 2018 @03:48PM (#18417881)
No, IOS does not allow notification in browser [1].

>Note: This document pertains to OS X only. Notifications for websites do not appear on iOS.

[1] : https://developer.apple.com/library/archive/documentation/Ne...

P.S: not assuming IOS is mobile, yes assuming significant amount of mobile economy is IOS browsers