Re:Chart of the Decade: Why You Shouldn’t Trust Every Scient...
by epistasis on Thursday November 08, 2018 @06:24PM
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Definitely not accusing you of being an anti-vaxxer, but I would love to hear your sources for some of your statements, because they contradict the data that I've seen. Searching now again, everything I'm finding is showing really big improvements in mortality from cardiovascular disease.
Recent US outcomes: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamacardiology/fullarticle/...
US & New York State outcomes 1980-2007, Figure 2: https://www.health.ny.gov/diseases/cardiovascular/heart_dise...
I haven't hit the major mortality sources, but these bits match everything else I've heard.
I'd also like to know the basis for asserting that the health care industry doing more harm than good.
Re:Chart of the Decade: Why You Shouldn’t Trust Every Scient...
by JauntyHatAngle on Thursday November 08, 2018 @05:45PM
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>And given the alarmingly climbing rates of chronic diseases, e.g. cardiovascular disease, diabetes, obesity, cancer, I'm also pretty sure that the health care industry has done more harm than good when it comes to chronic diseases.
I mean, can't this be attributed to other things too? (The way people live has changed in the past 20 years...)
I'd rather see some studies to show if/why those things have spiked rather than disavowing attempts to help it.
What else are we supposed to do?
I'm pretty sure we have no significant advances in the treatment of cardiovascular disease.
And given the alarmingly climbing rates of chronic diseases, e.g. cardiovascular disease, diabetes, obesity, cancer, I'm also pretty sure that the health care industry has done more harm than good when it comes to chronic diseases.
For everything else, for problems they can measure and treat with a pill, sure, I'm no anti-vaxxer, but they failed hard at chronic diseases, promoting cures and guidelines that did more harm than good.