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Re:MacBook Air 2018 Teardown by yakshaving_jgt on Thursday November 08, 2018 @01:22PM (#18408490)
Welp. There goes the last laptop Apple makes without a garbage keyboard.
Re:MacBook Air 2018 Teardown by vlozko on Thursday November 08, 2018 @02:24PM (#18409089)
I actually like the new keyboard... :( My fingers feel a lot less fatigued over time vs using a traditional mechanical keyboard. And even compared to the 2015 MBP, the newer keyboards feel more comfortable to relax my fingers on. While I never bothered doing a speed comparison between the two, I feel like I type slightly faster, albeit with slightly more mistakes. For example, reaching for the y key will occasionally cause my pinky to accidentally press the semi-colon key.
Re:MacBook Air 2018 Teardown by willtim on Thursday November 08, 2018 @03:54PM (#18409921)
Mechanical keyboards should provide much less fatigue if you avoid "bottoming out", which is much easier to do when a key has lots of travel and a dampening force curve. Most people suffer fatigue from these very low travel Apple keyboards as fingers will come to an abrupt hard stop. It's almost like typing on a hard surface.

The Apple keyboards were designed to be thin at the expense of everything else, reliability, maintainence, longevity, and comfort.

Re:MacBook Air 2018 Teardown by Wowfunhappy on Thursday November 08, 2018 @02:52PM (#18409356)
The keyboards seem to be very divisive. I know a lot of people who like them or don't mind them. I flat out cannot use them, and not for lack of trying.
Re:MacBook Air 2018 Teardown by spronkey on Thursday November 08, 2018 @09:15PM (#18411888)
I like the clickiness, and initial feel is very positive, but after a few minutes I find it really frustrating to type on them.
Re:MacBook Air 2018 Teardown by olibaw on Thursday November 08, 2018 @01:28PM (#18408549)
I'm weirdly ashamed to say I don't hate the new keyboard...

I'm just not a keyboard connoisseur, it seems.

Re:MacBook Air 2018 Teardown by yakshaving_jgt on Thursday November 08, 2018 @01:30PM (#18408577)
I guess the way it feels is subjective — and I certainly have strong opinions about that.

The two class action lawsuits against Apple for the butterfly switches however is some objective proof that something has gone terribly wrong.

Re:MacBook Air 2018 Teardown by neolefty on Thursday November 08, 2018 @01:38PM (#18408666)
Filing class action lawsuits is not proof of legitimacy, for example https://www.keytlaw.com/blog/2010/07/apple-sued-because-ipad...
Re:MacBook Air 2018 Teardown by sagichmal on Thursday November 08, 2018 @02:26PM (#18409116)
That was for the previous Butterfly design, the new one (on the Air and now most Pros) purports to solve the problems.
Re:MacBook Air 2018 Teardown by yakshaving_jgt on Friday November 09, 2018 @02:29AM (#18412903)
As far as I know, there is no new design. They just now stick a plastic film under the keys to stop dust getting in and destroying your entire machine.
Re:MacBook Air 2018 Teardown by sagichmal on Friday November 09, 2018 @11:50PM (#18420014)
Does it work?
Re:MacBook Air 2018 Teardown by zoltaan on Thursday November 08, 2018 @07:00PM (#18411192)
also no traditional USB and no MagSafe. My next laptop will be a non-Apple one. (luckily my McBook Air serves me well, recently extended its lifespan with new battery)