Re:Micron Kicks Off Mass Production of 12 Gb DRAM Chips
by zitterbewegung on Thursday November 08, 2018 @12:43PM
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In any organization if you have an internal tool or software it’s not like you can press a button and make sure it is cross compiled to ARM from x86. That is a huge and expensive undertaking.
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Re:Micron Kicks Off Mass Production of 12 Gb DRAM Chips
by phkahler on Thursday November 08, 2018 @12:55PM
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>> In any organization if you have an internal tool or software it’s not like you can press a button and make sure it is cross compiled to ARM from x86. That is a huge and expensive undertaking.
That depends on the software. Many linux distributions can be compiled for x86, ARM, PPC, RISC-V, and even some others. Cross compiling is not difficult if your software is written with even a little of that in mind. Windows itself used to be available for 3 or 4 instruction sets - and an OS requires low level hardware support. Applications should be largely target independent.
Re:Micron Kicks Off Mass Production of 12 Gb DRAM Chips
by kevin_thibedeau on Thursday November 08, 2018 @01:01PM
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Lots of x86 code plays fast and loose with alignment which will blow up on ARM.
Re:Micron Kicks Off Mass Production of 12 Gb DRAM Chips
by monocasa on Thursday November 08, 2018 @01:38PM
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Modern big ARMs let you play fast and loose with alignment as well.
Hell, a CortexM3 lets you have unaligned loads and stores too.
Re:Micron Kicks Off Mass Production of 12 Gb DRAM Chips
by jschwartzi on Thursday November 08, 2018 @05:53PM
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Even if they don't you can just turn unaligned access emulation on in your OS kernel. This was a thing in QNX and is also a thing in Linux.
Re:Micron Kicks Off Mass Production of 12 Gb DRAM Chips
by monocasa on Thursday November 08, 2018 @06:32PM
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I think it's fair to not want to turn that on in the kernel on chips that don't support it in servers. It's really expensive on those kinds of cores to trap into the kernel (a KPTI makes it dramatically more expensive).
That being said, server cores with their long me or pipelines are the most likely to not have an issue with unaligned access, so it's probably a moot point.
Re:Micron Kicks Off Mass Production of 12 Gb DRAM Chips
by phkahler on Thursday November 08, 2018 @03:49PM
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That software is either poorly written, or has low level stuff that needs to be arch specific or rewritten. Most code does not have this sort of issue.