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Re:Google Plans Large New York City Expansion by tootie on Thursday November 08, 2018 @09:18AM (#18406380)
People don't want 5000 sq ft anymore. I looked at suburban houses as an option and was thinking I hope I never have enough crap to fill this much space. I think I can comfortably fit my family of 4 in 1200 sq ft indefinitely and never own a car.
Re:Google Plans Large New York City Expansion by ardy42 on Thursday November 08, 2018 @10:05AM (#18406685)
> People don't want 5000 sq ft anymore. I looked at suburban houses as an option and was thinking I hope I never have enough crap to fill this much space. I think I can comfortably fit my family of 4 in 1200 sq ft indefinitely and never own a car.

That's an incredibly broad overstatement. There are plenty of people, including "techies," who still want a suburban home with a car.

There's a lot of talk in this thread that assumes that tech workers all want to live a minimalist lifestyle in a dense urban area (or even worse: that they should want to live that way). That's frankly false. I assume what's really going on is that people are projecting their parochial preferences onto a large group that's much more diverse than they understand.

Re:Google Plans Large New York City Expansion by tootie on Thursday November 08, 2018 @07:06PM (#18411238)
Yes, I'm generalizing but it's definitely a trend. The schools in my city used to fight for attendance and now they fight crowding and the PTA rates in 7 figures. Families are staying in the city more than ever.
Re:Google Plans Large New York City Expansion by redblacktree on Thursday November 08, 2018 @09:25AM (#18406434)
Do you have kids yet? Genuinely curious.
Re:Google Plans Large New York City Expansion by TulliusCicero on Thursday November 08, 2018 @09:36AM (#18406483)
I have a kid and our current duplex (150 sq m, I think) is basically the perfect size for our family of 3. Maybe even a little too big, honestly.
Re:Google Plans Large New York City Expansion by chickenfries on Thursday November 08, 2018 @09:39AM (#18406499)
1200 sqft is plenty of room for a 4 person family.

I mostly grew up in the city, in a small apartment, but for a while we did live in the Midwest, in a big house. The only problem with apartment living was that we had too much furniture we didn’t need from when we lived in the Midwest.

Re:Google Plans Large New York City Expansion by adventured on Thursday November 08, 2018 @10:18AM (#18406796)
> 1200 sqft is plenty of room for a 4 person family.

That's a projection of your subjective preference.

1200 sqft is not enough space for just me, that's my subjective preference. I currently occupy a home by myself with about ~2,500 sqft. I don't utilize all the space regularly. My bills would not go down by much if I reduced that space to, say, 1,500 sqft. Housing where I live is spectacularly affordable. I consider not having to live in a tiny, cramped space to be a quality of life benefit. I enjoy that my kitchen is the size of a small studio in San Francisco or NY, and it costs me perhaps $120 per month as a share of my mortgage.

Re:Google Plans Large New York City Expansion by chickenfries on Thursday November 08, 2018 @11:12AM (#18407238)
I’m sure that people richer than me can’t imagine living the way I do. I’m trying to point out that if you’re in the upper middle or upper class, your standard of living isn’t applicable to everyone else. I’m trying to point out that there exist a large number of people who are ok with the living conditions you see as unacceptable, not prove that no one wants a big home.
Re:Google Plans Large New York City Expansion by specialp on Thursday November 08, 2018 @10:39AM (#18406992)
The average American home was around 1500 feet 30-40 years ago and people raised families in them just fine. Instead of 4br 400sq ft each with en suite bathrooms, you had 120sq ft bedrooms for kids. It wasn't until the excesses of the mid 2000's that 3-4k sq ft homes became somewhat common, and outside the realm of mansions. Now the trend for home size is decreasing.
Re:Google Plans Large New York City Expansion by redblacktree on Thursday November 08, 2018 @09:56AM (#18406608)
Different strokes for different folks, I suppose. Once we had our kid, I couldn't wait to get out of our 850 sq ft. house. (which also had an 850 sq ft basement for laundry and storage)

I occassionally work from home, and I need a seperate office with a door to do that. Also, I just like having some space to get away from the rest of the family for a while.

Like you, it's what I'm used to from when I grew up, so that probably plays a big part in my preference.

Re:Google Plans Large New York City Expansion by tootie on Thursday November 08, 2018 @07:03PM (#18411214)
Yes. Two. We live in <1000 sq ft right now and they don't mind at all.
Re:Google Plans Large New York City Expansion by kentm on Thursday November 08, 2018 @11:01AM (#18407148)
I have 2 kids and a 1200 sqft house. It’s a good size for many 4-person families
Re:Google Plans Large New York City Expansion by chaosbutters on Thursday November 08, 2018 @10:50AM (#18407071)
exactly, I don't even have kids but I thought this too. If you have kids or pets, I want a lot of space for them to play and for me to play with them
Re:Google Plans Large New York City Expansion by screye on Thursday November 08, 2018 @07:12PM (#18411278)
I grew up, 6 people (With frequent guests) in a ~800 sqft house.

Something like ~2500 sqft. sounds amazing to me, as long as it is all on one floor.