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Re:A 69-year-old man asks to be declared 49, claiming age is... by rectang on Thursday November 08, 2018 @09:02AM (#18406267)
I'm not trans, but I am acquainted with many trans people including an awesome past colleague. So take this for what it's worth from another person doing their best to understand gender dysphoria.

Imagine that you were to wake up and find yourself in the body of the opposite gender, yet with your sense of attraction and your personal identity unchanged. Wouldn't many of your mannerisms seem awkward to you and to others? Would others be willing to accept your assertion of a gender that was at odds with your appearance? Would you?

> But, as soon they let cut themselves up and are heavily medicated, I begin to sense that they have trouble accepting themselves as who they are.

It doesn't get talked about much, but many of the treatments are painful, inconvenient, have difficult side effects, and do not always yield results which satisfy the subject. That people are willing to go through them nevertheless says a lot.

Re:A 69-year-old man asks to be declared 49, claiming age is... by dschuetz on Thursday November 08, 2018 @09:29AM (#18406452)
An interesting question. Why would it seem awkward though? I have mannerism that always did seem different to others which didn't bother me much, even when I was being bullied for that. Why am I different, just because I refuse to modify my mannerism, or modify others to accept that? Lacking the guts, or the strenght to stand up to bullies is not easy. But it should prevent any further damage to one's personality or identity. Self-acceptance is crucial.

I've always understood such drastic moves as acts of desperation. My point is that I want to understand what causes such desparation. I suspect that what you call gender dysphoria isn't the prime cause. But I can't know for sure without talking and learning about personal/individual experiences of trans people.

Re:A 69-year-old man asks to be declared 49, claiming age is... by rectang on Thursday November 08, 2018 @10:03AM (#18406667)
> Self-acceptance is crucial.

However laudable, is that not an ethic rather than an objective assessment? I don't see why that should make us doubt the voices of trans individuals as they describe their situation, even if we might wish for them to achieve self-acceptance.

> I suspect that what you call gender dysphoria isn't the prime cause.

That's not my terminology; it belongs to the medical establishment.

https://www.psychiatry.org/patients-families/gender-dysphori...

It seems to me like you have idiosyncratic experiences, which are perhaps very interesting, but may not apply well to the lives of trans people.