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Re:A History of the Sentence "Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffal... by durkie on Thursday November 08, 2018 @08:40AM (#18406126)
There's also a Japanese version of this: 子子子子子子子子子子子子

Unfortunately I can only find a Spanish language Wikipedia article about it (https://es.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neko_no_ko_koneko,_shishi_no...) but its roughly "kitten is the son of the cat, 'puppy' is the son of the lion" (we don't really have an English word for baby lion)

Re:A History of the Sentence "Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffal... by skykooler on Thursday November 08, 2018 @09:37AM (#18406490)
An example in Chinese (also involving lions): http://www.fa-kuan.muc.de/SHISHI.RXML
Re:A History of the Sentence "Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffal... by gcbw2 on Thursday November 08, 2018 @02:36PM (#18409217)
What can I use nowadays to play this site's .rm (real media?) files?
Re:A History of the Sentence "Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffal... by simcop2387 on Thursday November 08, 2018 @02:52PM (#18409357)
VLC will likely play them fine outside a browser. No idea how one would get them to work inside.
Re:A History of the Sentence "Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffal... by durkie on Thursday November 08, 2018 @11:11AM (#18407228)
This is amazing and insane!
Re:A History of the Sentence "Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffal... by yesbabyyes on Thursday November 08, 2018 @08:41AM (#18406134)
(we don't really have an English word for baby lion)

Cub?

Re:A History of the Sentence "Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffal... by codetrotter on Thursday November 08, 2018 @08:51AM (#18406202)
Yes. I like how Google translate wrote it when translating the Spanish version; "the cat's son is a kitten; the son of the lion, cub".
Re:A History of the Sentence "Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffal... by durkie on Thursday November 08, 2018 @08:55AM (#18406229)
Oh yeah! Definitely better.
Re:A History of the Sentence "Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffal... by pdpi on Thursday November 08, 2018 @08:51AM (#18406200)
Definitely better than puppy, but not quite specific to lions.
Re:A History of the Sentence "Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffal... by code_duck on Thursday November 08, 2018 @10:17AM (#18406776)
It’s specific to lions, just not exclusive to lions.
Re:A History of the Sentence "Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffal... by pbhjpbhj on Thursday November 08, 2018 @11:54AM (#18407656)
Ooh, pedantry, my kind of thread:

https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/specific

I think it fails on most if not all definitions of specific.

"Lion cub" is specific, lion and cub are both specifiers. But "cub" is specific to juveniles of a range of species; so I'd say "not specific to lions".

Interesting then to think which species do have specific English single-word names for juveniles. Owlets, foals, and joeys spring to mind ...

French has louveteau for a wolf cub, perhaps it has a specific lion cub word too? I'd imagine Kiswahili to have a specific word, perhaps?

Re:A History of the Sentence "Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffal... by Heag3aec on Thursday November 08, 2018 @09:05AM (#18406290)
On english wikipedia it's a section of another article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ono_no_Takamura#Takamura_in_la...
Re:A History of the Sentence "Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffal... by smrq on Thursday November 08, 2018 @02:37PM (#18409224)
Not quite the same thing. The character 子 has many different readings, meaning it is pronounced differently depending on context. E.g. 子 on its own is KO, but in the word 中性子 (chuuseishi) it is pronounced SHI. Those different pronunciations can be combined to a somewhat sensible phrase when spoken. But that phrase when written would come out as 猫の子子猫、獅子の子子獅子. So it's more of a pun than a grammar quirk. I feel like it's more related to the English "word" ghoti (fish), as it's specifically a quirk of the writing system.

But I had never seen this before and it's fascinating! I don't mean to sound pedantic, I just think it's interesting how different languages have different sorts of technical oddities.

Re:A History of the Sentence "Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffal... by xelxebar on Thursday November 08, 2018 @07:22PM (#18411343)
It's also interesting how の can be inserted as needed, a la 山手線 or 井上さん. Old Japanese works quite a bit differrently than the modern, productive sort.
Re:A History of the Sentence "Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffal... by TazeTSchnitzel on Thursday November 08, 2018 @10:12PM (#18412082)
Is that perhaps related to how traditionally, Japan wrote in Classical Chinese, then used a system for “reading” it as Japanese?
Re:A History of the Sentence "Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffal... by xelxebar on Friday November 09, 2018 @10:01PM (#18419681)
I suspect so, since this kind of thing becomes more frequent as you go back in time. I think that's the same story for why some two-character words seem to have backwards word-ording, e.g. 日本に滞在する vs 在日する, or 米国へ渡る vs 渡米する.

I've also noticed that readings seem to become more liberal in general. These days we tend to think of kanji having rigid associations to readings; however, you'll sometimes see some characters replacing semantically similar ones, despite the readings being different.

I also suspect this flexibility is how Japanese acquired such a complicated mapping between it's written and spoken forms.

Blah, blah blah. You get me on this subject and I can ramble endlessly. :)

Re:A History of the Sentence "Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffal... by gcb0 on Thursday November 08, 2018 @10:33AM (#18406944)
in chinese the ma sound have several meanings (granted, with different tones).

but it can mean mother, horse, hemp, question... there is certainly a chinese version of this around the corner :)