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Re:Google Plans Large New York City Expansion by lotsofpulp on Thursday November 08, 2018 @06:48AM (#18405650)
If you count the opportunity cost of the time, stress, and money you spend using NJTransit to commute into Manhattan, and especially if you’re commuting further into other boroughs, the tax savings of NJ turn into losses.
Re:Google Plans Large New York City Expansion by apohn on Thursday November 08, 2018 @08:41AM (#18406136)
100% Agree. It's very easy to underestimate the additional pain of commuting from NJ (unless you are talking about Jersey City or Hoboken), especially if you own a home and are paying NJ property taxes.
Re:Google Plans Large New York City Expansion by alexhutcheson on Thursday November 08, 2018 @08:47AM (#18406179)
Lots of people live in Jersey City and take the PATH, which is a faster, cheaper, and more reliable commute than NJT. They still avoid NYC city tax and get cheaper and nicer apartments though.
Re:Google Plans Large New York City Expansion by lotsofpulp on Thursday November 08, 2018 @09:22AM (#18406409)
Yes, Hobo/JC if you're near the Path station is an exception. But it doesn't apply to many people commuting into NYC.
Re:Google Plans Large New York City Expansion by TarpitCarnivore on Thursday November 08, 2018 @09:00AM (#18406256)
There's other ways into NYC from NJ that aren't the train. There are many ferry options along the hudson, and nothern shore area has a commuter ferry that is 40 minutes to Wall St.
Re:Google Plans Large New York City Expansion by mxuribe on Thursday November 08, 2018 @09:21AM (#18406407)
I live in NJ, and from 2006-2010 worked in WFC near Wall Street...While the ferry option is nice and pleasant, it used to cost about 2.5~3 times MORE expensive than the PATH train (the "subway' that connects both sides of the Hudson). Also, the duration of the commute gets cut down only about 1.5~2 minutes (as compared to when the PATH is running without delays). Overall, not really sustainable - neither in time nor money. Though, as a tourist, yeah, the ferry is nice for its views of the skyline. ;-)
Re:Google Plans Large New York City Expansion by TarpitCarnivore on Thursday November 08, 2018 @09:34AM (#18406470)
I've used the ferry a handful of times to take my bike in, but it definitely caters to a very specific clientele. It's simply not worth it unless you live right there or work right where it lets off.
Re:Google Plans Large New York City Expansion by lotsofpulp on Thursday November 08, 2018 @09:25AM (#18406431)
Yes, the strip of land from Jersey City to Edgewater is an exception in terms of travel time, but that doesn't apply to many NJ to NYC commuters.