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Re:Inside Tesla’s factory, a medical clinic designed to igno... by whatshisface on Tuesday November 06, 2018 @07:30AM (#18390377)
Whether or not they lied is in the end an implementation detail - a skilled amoral persuader doesn't need to lie to mislead. The toolbox for that includes being biased in what facts you mention, making "mistakes," and using your own words to connect the wrong dots (basically every way to introduce an error can be abused). Tesla claims that the reporters are focusing on a healthcare provider that they cut ties with while ignoring what they are actually doing at present - which is one example of what you could do to make your readers believe wrong things without lying.
Re:Inside Tesla’s factory, a medical clinic designed to igno... by salvar on Tuesday November 06, 2018 @07:44AM (#18390462)
All right then, can you name an example where this news organization (Center for Investigative Reporting) has misled readers to make them believe the wrong things?
Re:Inside Tesla’s factory, a medical clinic designed to igno... by eduah on Tuesday November 06, 2018 @11:24AM (#18392381)
Again, That Tesla under reported injuries, which a 4 month OSHA investigation proved wasn't true. Is that enough of a lie to mistrust Reveal? You must surely know this.
Re:Inside Tesla’s factory, a medical clinic designed to igno... by frakkingcylons on Tuesday November 06, 2018 @12:58PM (#18393300)
As mentioned in the Reveal article, OSHA also found four other instances of improperly reporting injuries but could not report it due to the statute of limitations.
Re:Inside Tesla’s factory, a medical clinic designed to igno... by freerobby on Tuesday November 06, 2018 @01:26PM (#18393561)
There are at least three prior examples of Reveal publishing falsehoods about Tesla:

* Intentional underreporting of injuries.

* Disallowing the use of yellow tape at the factory.

* Disallowing audible warnings ("beeps") on forklifts.

Re:Inside Tesla’s factory, a medical clinic designed to igno... by whatshisface on Tuesday November 06, 2018 @11:14AM (#18392272)
There's no point in being a less sophisticated reader than you can be. You should never be ignorant about the techniques that dishonest writers can use to fool you, no matter what you are reading.
Re:Inside Tesla’s factory, a medical clinic designed to igno... by Buldak on Tuesday November 06, 2018 @11:30AM (#18392440)
Justifying a presumptive skepticism of reporting on Tesla with such a nebulous pronouncement as "but reporters often lie ..." is pretty much the opposite of "sophisticated."