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Re:Amazon Plans to Split HQ2 in Two Locations: NY and VA by zemo on Monday November 05, 2018 @09:59PM (#18387970)
this is insanely tone-deaf.

they're moving existing employees there. People don't want to live in the middle of nowhere. People don't want to be moved without their consent to start a new society.

This is painfully, ridiculously obvious if you stop thinking about people as numbers and start thinking about them as actual humans living full lives.

Re:Amazon Plans to Split HQ2 in Two Locations: NY and VA by wpietri on Monday November 05, 2018 @10:17PM (#18388048)
People don't want to be moved without their consent, period. It doesn't matter where the new office is.

There are plenty of people who do want to live in the middle of nowhere. I know a number of techies who have taken advantage of remote opportunities to finally live where they want, and at a much better price. And one could reasonably describe the whole trend of suburbanization as people moving to the middle of nowhere, so I suspect Amazon could find plenty of people who'd like a reasonably priced, new-built home in an up-and-coming area.

Re:Amazon Plans to Split HQ2 in Two Locations: NY and VA by tjr225 on Monday November 05, 2018 @10:49PM (#18388200)
There are plenty of people who want to do basically anything you can imagine.

Statistically, we are as a society, drifting closer to urban cores. I too dream of buying 50 acres in the midwest for about 100k or so - so don't get me wrong I get the appeal. It's just more or less not what is happening.

> And one could reasonably describe the whole trend of suburbanization as people moving to the middle of nowhere,

I disagree with this. Suburbanization is a way for people to live close to urban centers with the employment prospects (although with a commute, contributing to congestion, emissions), without the benefits (and negatives) of living in an urban core. I have never been to a suburb that is in the middle of nowhere...if it was it wouldn't be sub-urban.

Re:Amazon Plans to Split HQ2 in Two Locations: NY and VA by umanwizard on Tuesday November 06, 2018 @12:00AM (#18388509)
A lot of the Southwest directly contradicts your point: huge, almost endless tracts of suburbia with no urban core whatsoever. Phoenix (4.7MM people in the metro area, virtually no downtown) is the quintessential example.
Re:Amazon Plans to Split HQ2 in Two Locations: NY and VA by tjr225 on Tuesday November 06, 2018 @12:12AM (#18388562)
I've never really been to the Southwest so that would be something I haven't experienced. It sounds a lot different than the suburbia I am accustomed to in other parts of the country.
Re:Amazon Plans to Split HQ2 in Two Locations: NY and VA by umanwizard on Tuesday November 06, 2018 @12:35AM (#18388646)
For what it’s worth there are plenty of jobs in Phoenix. They’re just dispersed throughout the giant mass of suburbs rather than being located “downtown”.
Re:Amazon Plans to Split HQ2 in Two Locations: NY and VA by briandear on Tuesday November 06, 2018 @12:54AM (#18388730)
Those poor, horribly abused humans living in fly-over country. How do they survive? It’s incredibly insulting to suggest that somewhere other than the coasts is the middle of nowhere.
Re:Amazon Plans to Split HQ2 in Two Locations: NY and VA by zemo on Tuesday November 06, 2018 @08:27AM (#18390740)
the poster suggested Amazon -start a city-. If they're starting a new city, isn't that by definition nowhere?
Re:Amazon Plans to Split HQ2 in Two Locations: NY and VA by unethical_ban on Tuesday November 06, 2018 @09:54AM (#18391481)
out of a pliable town. Find a small-medium city with room to grow and decent wages, stable natural resources, and build on it.
Re:Amazon Plans to Split HQ2 in Two Locations: NY and VA by unethical_ban on Monday November 05, 2018 @10:57PM (#18388232)
Note the part where I said I wasn't that naive, but someone can dream. Are you really telling me I'm the one thinking of people as numbers, not Amazon?

My employer is planning on moving several hundred people about ten miles from their current location. The only reason aren't quitting is because there isn't enough competition in the tech sector this city.

It would just be nice if there were cities with livable housing costs AND a competitive tech sector.