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Re:Intelligence as a Halting Oracle by TheOtherHobbes on Monday November 05, 2018 @05:31PM (#18386584)
Now give a full mathematically rigorous explanation of consciousness.

Give three examples.

Do not use the word "Obviously..."

Re:Intelligence as a Halting Oracle by yongjik on Monday November 05, 2018 @05:50PM (#18386736)
That's neither here nor there. The actions of a swarm of ants or Windows 10 can look dark, mysterious, inexplicable, or downright malicious, but there's nothing in their behavior that warrants something out of our known physical law.

That doesn't necessarily mean we understand their behavior, of course. Complex behavior can arise out of simple underlying rules. That's hardly controversial, except (for some reason) when it's about human brains.

Re:Intelligence as a Halting Oracle by Misdicorl on Monday November 05, 2018 @05:53PM (#18386751)
This isn't necessary at all for GPs point. We also can't give a mathematically rigorous explanation for the path a hurricane will take, but that doesn't mean there's magic unknown physics at play.
Re:Intelligence as a Halting Oracle by adrianN on Monday November 05, 2018 @06:06PM (#18386826)
First give a definition of consciousness that allows me to determine whether something is conscious or not.
Re:Intelligence as a Halting Oracle by yters on Monday November 05, 2018 @05:50PM (#18386734)
You may want to check out the proof: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18377525
Re:Intelligence as a Halting Oracle by SilasX on Monday November 05, 2018 @06:32PM (#18386965)
That links to a comment on a different article that says "here's a great math-free explanation" and links this discussion.
Re:Intelligence as a Halting Oracle by yters on Monday November 05, 2018 @07:02PM (#18387120)
The parent link at the top of the page is to the proof. I'm pointing to the HN page in the hopes of discussion.

Here's the direct link to the proof: https://www.am-nat.org/site/law-of-information-non-growth/

Re:Intelligence as a Halting Oracle by dooglius on Monday November 05, 2018 @05:52PM (#18386746)
The blog post explicitly addresses this