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Re:How I became friends with an octopus by Johnny555 on Sunday November 04, 2018 @10:40PM (#18379712)
This excerpt:

When the great white sees a human it scans us, its search image is picking up something that's not prey. ...They aren't animals that are after us, if they were, there would be attacks every day.

Reminds me of the bear documentary filmmaker who was killed by the bears he was observing:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_Treadwell#Death

Re:How I became friends with an octopus by taneq on Monday November 05, 2018 @01:02AM (#18380199)
That's what happens when you mistake "animal which doesn't think you're food" for "animal of a type which won't hurt you."

Nature's pretty good at opportunism. A well-fed bear might be fairly safe, while that same bear if starving would eat you without a second thought.

Re:How I became friends with an octopus by inawarminister on Monday November 05, 2018 @03:57AM (#18380852)
“Let me tell you something about Hew-mons, Nephew. They're a wonderful, friendly people, as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites are working. But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of food, sleep, sonic showers, put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those same friendly, intelligent, wonderful people... will become as nasty and as violent as the most bloodthirsty Klingon. You don't believe me? Look at those faces. Look in their eyes.” Quark, ST: Deep Space 9
Re:How I became friends with an octopus by unstuckdev on Monday November 05, 2018 @09:02AM (#18382345)
I think this is why they had to bring in an enemy from across the galaxy for DS9. All the other militaristic Alpha Quadrant civilizations had seen humans in war and did not want to get on their bad side again. The Dominion hadn't yet seen first hand what lengths humans will go to when threatened.
Re:How I became friends with an octopus by barrow-rider on Monday November 05, 2018 @10:50AM (#18383222)
From the episode "The Siege of AR-558." Well done episode, if kind of on the nose.

http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/The_Siege_of_AR-558_(epis...

Re:How I became friends with an octopus by colanderman on Monday November 05, 2018 @12:55PM (#18384342)
One of the best (and most unique) in the series. The interested viewer should also watch the equally – if not more – powerful "It's Only a Paper Moon", which resolves events from "Siege": http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/It%27s_Only_a_Paper_Moon_...
Re:How I became friends with an octopus by taneq on Monday November 05, 2018 @06:29AM (#18381485)
Precisely. Any reasonably survivable creature varies its behaviour depending on its current condition.
Re:How I became friends with an octopus by emilfihlman on Monday November 05, 2018 @11:21AM (#18383517)
I love the HFY genre.
Re:How I became friends with an octopus by pandapower2 on Monday November 05, 2018 @12:54AM (#18380157)
I was curious about this.

>The one attack a year is an aberration.

Is that just one attack a year in that specific region? There are certainly more than that globally. Earlier this year there were two attacks in Australia only hours apart.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-04-16/man-attacked-by-shark...

Re:How I became friends with an octopus by groby_b on Monday November 05, 2018 @02:31AM (#18380533)
It's about 50-100 a year world wide. The majority, oddly, in the US - seems even the sharks around here are more prone to violence. (No word on the Jets yet)

But, seriously, given that we kill 100 million of them every year, they're surprisingly nice to us.

Re:How I became friends with an octopus by AvocadoPanic on Monday November 05, 2018 @06:52AM (#18381585)
Yes we'll, obviously US based sharks are being incited by the irresponsible rhetoric of the current administration.
Re:How I became friends with an octopus by quirkot on Monday November 05, 2018 @08:31AM (#18382148)
Keep it cool, boy. Real cool.
Re:How I became friends with an octopus by barrow-rider on Monday November 05, 2018 @02:01PM (#18384922)
Careful mon ami, someone might DANCE at you. Them pirouettes is scary.
Re:How I became friends with an octopus by sandworm101 on Monday November 05, 2018 @11:06AM (#18383390)
I had a dive instructor one who had an interesting insight re attacks Hawaii. Surfer goes missing. Body is found later with massive, obvious, shark bites. Lungs full or water. Official story: surfer drowned and then was bitten. If a large shark wants to actually eat you, you aren't getting away to call it an attack. It is not abnormal for people to simply go missing on the ocean. If even a small percentage of these are attacks, the "one attack per year" mantra should be revisited.

I would not recommend swimming, or walking, around any apex predator. They are very confident animals and are therefore curious. Watch a puppy 'inspect' an unusual object. You might not survive such curiosity.

Google "red sea jaws", a story about a true rogue shark that attacked multiple people across several days. The animal has a deformed jaw and so the bites could be linked.

Re:How I became friends with an octopus by satori99 on Monday November 05, 2018 @03:34AM (#18380764)
Another person was bitten in the same bay today;

https://www.news.com.au/national/queensland/shark-attack-nea...

Re:How I became friends with an octopus by TheSpiceIsLife on Monday November 05, 2018 @01:13AM (#18380239)
Reminds me of that thing that comedian said. I forget who. He was saying something like:

A shark attack is when a shark with a baseball bat walks in to your living room while your watching a movie and says “shark attack!”.

When you get bitten by one while your swimming or surfing, that’s a well deserved ass whipping.

Re:How I became friends with an octopus by booleandilemma on Monday November 05, 2018 @12:02AM (#18379987)
Reading that wikipedia article was very unsettling (I don’t know what else I expected though)
Re:How I became friends with an octopus by kevinmchugh on Monday November 05, 2018 @12:27AM (#18380075)
The film is much more unsettling.
Re:How I became friends with an octopus by annamargot on Sunday November 04, 2018 @10:46PM (#18379733)
Timmy the Fox! King of all foxes ...and all bears.

Great doc.

Grizzly Man (2005): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWA7GtDmNFU

Re:How I became friends with an octopus by BattyMilk on Monday November 05, 2018 @06:23AM (#18381463)
I can't decide if I think it's real or fake. It's a very good doc and Timothy's footage could absolutely be real but the people interviewed, every single one of them, just come across as fake and very very bad actors.

Whenever the film comes up on Reddit I scan the comments and I've done a tiny bit of googling but it seems I'm in the minority with this opinion which I find strange since I can't fathom the interviewees are even close to genuine.

Re:How I became friends with an octopus by yesenadam on Monday November 05, 2018 @07:31AM (#18381774)
It's real. "could be real"? hehe. Yeah, Treadwell did his filming of himself, Herzog came along after his death and put together the movie, did the interviews, voiceover etc. He often encourages the bizarre in his docos, doesn't edit it out, often leaves the camera rolling on an interviewee ages longer than anyone else would - I love that. Uses the least appropriate music imaginable (which often works brilliantly) I know what you mean, they seem very, very odd. It's mainly that every other camera person/director tries to make things/people seem relatively normal, not-weird.

I've seen almost all Herzog's docos, all worth seeing, Grizzly Man is my favourite though. The one about the internet, from a couple of years ago, is one of his best also. Try Fata Morgana for weirdness, or the bleak/beautiful Lessons of Darkness, both set in the desert.