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Re:A Heretic's Guide to Deplatforming by logifail on Saturday November 03, 2018 @10:23AM (#18370267)
>> That my $.25 artisanal dog cupcake business can't get the services it needs at the price I can afford doesn't raise complaints.

If you can't get services you need at any price isn't that when competition authorities [ought to] start investigating?

Re:A Heretic's Guide to Deplatforming by tptacek on Saturday November 03, 2018 @10:58AM (#18370483)
The is no evidence that Gab can't find a price at which to run its service. Again: even Stormfront is still up and running. And Stormfront is just Gab without the pretend rules forbidding threats and harassment.
Re:A Heretic's Guide to Deplatforming by mcguire on Saturday November 03, 2018 @11:02AM (#18370512)
So, once again, "Are you willing to compel Stripe by threat of force to keep processing credit cards for nazis?"
Re:A Heretic's Guide to Deplatforming by ThrowawayR2 on Saturday November 03, 2018 @11:50AM (#18370765)
In the 1950s, your question would've been "Are you willing to compel Stripe by threat of force to keep processing credit cards for leftists and commies?" You believe because your political faction has a little leverage currently that it will always remain that way; not so. If you legitimize deplatforming, it is a weapon that will someday be turned against you.

Given the unwelcome resurgence of the right worldwide, that day may come sooner than you think.

Re:A Heretic's Guide to Deplatforming by joshuamorton on Saturday November 03, 2018 @12:23PM (#18370979)
If memory serves, at least in the US this was the opposite. The free market was fine with serving least wing groups. It was the government that stepped in and told individuals to not be leftist, under threat of force.

Only then did businesses stop associating with those people, because the government was implicitly threatening them.

It was exactly the government's interference that caused the deplatforming of potential leftists during the red scare.

Re:A Heretic's Guide to Deplatforming by ThrowawayR2 on Saturday November 03, 2018 @12:35PM (#18371063)
The government isn't an entity with its own independent will; the US public broadly voted in officials that put in place those policies. Leftists who openly identified as such faced all sorts of problems doing business even without government intervention.
Re:A Heretic's Guide to Deplatforming by joshuamorton on Saturday November 03, 2018 @12:50PM (#18371150)
Hollywood blacklists, the most famous example from the red scare, only began after HUAC subpoenaed and held people in contempt.
Re:A Heretic's Guide to Deplatforming by ThrowawayR2 on Saturday November 03, 2018 @01:11PM (#18371272)
You're just repeating the same invalid argument. Go and look up the history of widespread small scale anti-lefist incidents in that era that occurred before the HUAC existed.
Re:A Heretic's Guide to Deplatforming by joshuamorton on Saturday November 03, 2018 @01:21PM (#18371340)
The onus is on you to provide examples. Most of what I know of, and what I can find documented, was government sanctioned or under (implied) threat of government retaliation.

Please cite examples of these widespread small scale, grassroots anti-leftist incidents.

Re:A Heretic's Guide to Deplatforming by logifail on Saturday November 03, 2018 @11:22AM (#18370607)
"Somebody someone else really doesn't like" != Nazi

When we start throwing that word around, along with describing groups as "far right" (or indeed "far left") when they've started getting more votes than the [previously] mainstream groupings, we appear have a problem with nomenclature.[0]

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hessian_state_election,_2018 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bavarian_state_election,_2018 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_presidential_election,_... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austrian_legislative_election,...

Re:A Heretic's Guide to Deplatforming by amanaplanacanal on Saturday November 03, 2018 @04:00PM (#18372157)
I assume that you have a proposal that would differentiate between the two? So that they would be forced to serve "somebody someone else really doesn't like", but not be forced to serve Nazis?