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Re:1 in 4 Statisticians Say They Were Asked to Commit Scient... by zamalek on Saturday November 03, 2018 @01:01AM (#18368803)
Science is a field where failure should be celebrated; see Thomas Edison and the lightbulb.
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Re:1 in 4 Statisticians Say They Were Asked to Commit Scient... by gmueckl on Saturday November 03, 2018 @02:47AM (#18369057)
... Except that Edison succeeded.

What kind of failures should we celebrate? There are two kinds that I can see: a failure to produce a result because of a lack of skill or knowledge and a failure to produce a result because of a demonstrable or provable reason. The last one is actually a success because that kind of failure produces new knowledge. But we have a culture in far too many fields where this is seen as not publishable.

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Re:1 in 4 Statisticians Say They Were Asked to Commit Scient... by Fomite on Saturday November 03, 2018 @03:04AM (#18369099)
I have always wanted a 'Journal of Cautionary Tales', for studies that were well thought out, approached correctly, and just didn't work.
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Re:1 in 4 Statisticians Say They Were Asked to Commit Scient... by zamalek on Saturday November 03, 2018 @04:34AM (#18369272)
"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." ~ Thomas Edison

He eventually succeeded.

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Re:1 in 4 Statisticians Say They Were Asked to Commit Scient... by vbuwivbiu on Saturday November 03, 2018 @03:09AM (#18369109)
Joseph Swan, or any of the other 23 inventors of the lightbuld prior to Edison
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Re:1 in 4 Statisticians Say They Were Asked to Commit Scient... by danieltillett on Saturday November 03, 2018 @05:40AM (#18369408)
I wouldn't go as far as to say failure is celebrated, but it should be OK to fail. Your career should not be over because you tried something hard and it didn't pan out.

I almost think we should have a magic card you get to play once in your career that resets your track record. This way you could take risk without totally destroying your career.

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